Inspiration

[R3volution]

In the history of the human race
Of all the inspirations for the separation of man from his true tribal culture
Of all the inspirations for acts of violence from one man onto another,
From one nation onto another, from one oppressor onto the oppressed.
There is no more guilty party and inspiration than those books known
As the holy bible and the Koran to spread separation of mankind.

[xenomorph]

Inspiration? sure, to be an ignoramus who'll believe anything as long as it sounds good.

I think the search for a soul mate has caused more inspiration in just about everything more than a religious book.

[R3volution]

Inspiration? sure, to be an ignoramus who'll believe anything as long as it sounds good.

I think the search for a soul mate has caused more inspiration in just about everything more than a religious book.

Before posting, please be so kind as to read the post and make sure you understand the point being given before replying.

also, if you do decide to reply, please reply intelligently. do not dismiss what has been said, and insult the poster. ad hominem attacks are fallacies. not arguements.

[Jon88]

In the history of the human race
Of all the inspirations for the separation of man from his true tribal culture
Of all the inspirations for acts of violence from one man onto another,
From one nation onto another, from one oppressor onto the oppressed.
There is no more guilty party and inspiration than those books known
As the holy bible and the Koran to spread separation of mankind.

What is a man's true tribal culture?

If one does not see the Bible as divinely inspired then one must assume it was written by man; inspired by man.

Religion is the tool in which some people carry out their own objectives.

So, what's your point?

[evil_one275]

the bible some people use it to inspire there actions. i don't believe anything that the bible has to say but thats not to say others shouldn't. the bible was written by a group of people hundreds of thousands of years ago. i believe that these people would have said something like this is the way to be happy for ever and it has just stuck

[AlexisOnFire]

the bible some people use it to inspire there actions. i don't believe anything that the bible has to say but thats not to say others shouldn't. the bible was written by a group of people hundreds of thousands of years ago. i believe that these people would have said something like this is the way to be happy for ever and it has just stuck

lol do you live in a cave?

[R3volution]

What is a man's true tribal culture?

If one does not see the Bible as divinely inspired then one must assume it was written by man; inspired by man.

Religion is the tool in which some people carry out their own objectives.

So, what's your point?

mans tribal culture is that culture that man embraced before fear based government and religion started to tell man how to live, and what to believe.

my point is that these religions drive us as a species apart through hatred and false superiority.

[Jon88]

mans tribal culture is that culture that man embraced before fear based government and religion started to tell man how to live, and what to believe.

Such scenarios are beyond my imagination.

my point is that these religions drive us as a species apart through hatred and false superiority.

Hatred is a natural human tendency, and religion is just a facilitator of this already present tendency. A man can use a gun for many reasons and the gun is capable of carrying out those many uses, but it is ultimately the man's will that creates the action; it is also the man's subjective perspective which drives him, and judge or measure the morality of his action.

[NinjaDuck]

the bible some people use it to inspire there actions. i don't believe anything that the bible has to say but thats not to say others shouldn't. the bible was written by a group of people hundreds of thousands of years ago. i believe that these people would have said something like this is the way to be happy for ever and it has just stuck

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[R3volution]

Hatred is a natural human tendency, and religion is just a facilitator of this already present tendency. A man can use a gun for many reasons and the gun is capable of carrying out those many uses, but it is ultimately the man's will that creates the action; it is also the man's subjective perspective which drives him, and judge or measure the morality of his action.

My point here is that there is no greater inspiration of hate in the history of the human race than the books known as the Holy Bible and the Koran.

Guns have been used for many things. But these religions have inspired man to use them to eliminate anyone who is different.

[eskuAdradit0]

Allegory of the cave anyone?

[Jon88]

My point here is that there is no greater inspiration of hate in the history of the human race than the books known as the Holy Bible and the Koran.

What is your objective?

Guns have been used for many things. But these religions have inspired man to use them to eliminate anyone who is different.

Guns have been used for many things EXAMPLES:
*Hunt animals for good
*Shooting coke cans in my back yard.
*Drive by shooting kids, teenagers, adults, teachers, politicians, religious icons, etc...
*A sense of power of those who do not wield them
*War

These religions have inspired:
*Eliminate anyone who is different.
*Martin Luther King.
*Mother Teresa.
*Missionaries both bad ones, and good ones.
*...
*...
Edit:The conquest of the Americas

[R3volution]

What is your objective?

My objective is for people to draw their own conclusions from the evidence provided.

[evil_one275]

lol do you live in a cave?

no i dont live in a cave what made you say that

[Admiral Awesome (115 votes)]

the bible some people use it to inspire there actions. i don't believe anything that the bible has to say but thats not to say others shouldn't. the bible was written by a group of people hundreds of thousands of years ago. i believe that these people would have said something like this is the way to be happy for ever and it has just stuck

I just wanted to do this and be cool like everyone else.

[evil_one275]

^
Lol.......

[shintenzu]

In the history of the human race
Of all the inspirations for the separation of man from his true tribal culture
Of all the inspirations for acts of violence from one man onto another,
From one nation onto another, from one oppressor onto the oppressed.
There is no more guilty party and inspiration than those books known
As the holy bible and the Koran to spread separation of mankind.

Wow you really suck at discrediting Christianity. I've seen alot of bad points but this comes close to taking the cake.

The fact that humans WILL bring distaster upon themselves when unbriddled and unrestrained by law is what brings "fear based" government into the picture. The fact that you would steal from the liquor store if there were no consequence, the fact that you would speed constantly if there was no speed limit, the fact that you would smoke pot if it was not illegal is what bings fear based government. Man has proven over and over again that he cannot handle total freedom, and countless times we have been shown that anarchy does not work. That is why the government has laws and that is why the bible has laws given from God. The reason why our government has so many laws based on biblical principles is because biblical laws WORK at keeping order.

Anger, selfishness, greed, and hate are the biggest inspiration for acts of violence from one nation to another, from one oppressor to the oppressed. None of these feelings is EVER encouraged by the Bible.

Using the blame game to discredit Christianity only works when you know what you are talking about.

My point here is that there is no greater inspiration of hate in the history of the human race than the books known as the Holy Bible and the Koran.

Guns have been used for many things. But these religions have inspired man to use them to eliminate anyone who is different.

I see, so a Holy Bible that teaches us NOT to hate, NOT to steal, NOT to murder, NOT to commit adultery, a Bible that teaches us to LOVE our neighbor, to GIVE to the poor, to AVOID violence MUST be the biggest inspiration of hate right? I mean the fact that humans have the natural tendency to hate has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with it... Beautiful logic, you deserve a Darwin Award.

[evil_one275]

I see, so a Holy Bible that teaches us NOT to hate, NOT to steal, NOT to murder, NOT to commit adultery, a Bible that teaches us to LOVE our neighbor, to GIVE to the poor, to AVOID violence MUST be the biggest inspiration of hate right? I mean the fact that humans have the natural tendency to hate has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with it... Beautiful logic, you deserve a Darwin Award.

the bible doesn't have any point at all it is always contradicting it's self. humans have a natural tendency to destroy people that are weaker then them selfs thats what humans will always do no matter what a stupid book says (not to offend any one)

[Jon88]

the bible doesn't have any point at all it is always contradicting it's self

Correction; it is always contradicting itself to your subjective interpretation.

[R3volution]

Anger, selfishness, greed, and hate are the biggest inspiration for acts of violence from one nation to another, from one oppressor to the oppressed. None of these feelings is EVER encouraged by the Bible.

Please read the old testament.

Correction; it is always contradicting itself to your subjective interpretation.

here is a list of 384 contradictions as stated in the KJV (King James Version) of the bible, which most other bibles are based off of.

SAB Contradictions

i guess i should have been more clear here. The KJV translation style is what most bibles are based off of. I apologize.

[Jon88]

here is a list of 384 contradictions as stated in the

I am quite aware of the various so called contradictions found in the Bible; but nonetheless, 1, the Bible does have a point, 2, it does not always contradict itself; in fact, in reality it may not contradict itself at all. To say the Bible has no point because it always contradicts itself is completely absurd, and the best way I could think of respond to such a statement is remind the person that such an allegation is relative to themselves.

the KJV (King James Version) of the bible, which most other bibles are based off of.

The King James Version in its original form is one of the worst translations ever written. It was ordered written by King James of England after the death of William Shakespeare in honor of his beautiful writing style, thus the author that wrote it had motive to match Shakespeare's writing style. The biggest challenge a poet faces is choosing the best words to match the poetic form which most likely forced the author to make alterations from the scholarly translations.

There have been revisions to the original King James Version which are noted with a Authorized by the church.

Finally, New Bibles translations are not based on old ones. The New International Edition for example is based on the oldest known Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek editions overseen by hundreds of diverse scholars, and many phases of refinement before ever reaching the public.

[shintenzu]

Please read the old testament.

No, YOU read the old testiment. Those were laws with severe consiquences, in order to keep order, AND the laws where also to show how much we fell from perfection. THAT IS WHY A SACRIFICIAL LAMB WAS KILLED TO TAKE THE PLACE OF THE SINNER'S LIFE.

here is a list of 384 contradictions as stated in the KJV (King James Version) of the bible, which most other bibles are based off of.

Two thing you gotta fix here before you spout more ignorance. Other bible translations ARE NOT based off the KJV, but off the greek and hebrew manuscripts. Second, the reason why the bible has been retranslated from Hebrew and Latin is because old english (the language the KJV is written in) did not translate alot of Hebrew hebrew phrases perfectly so certain contradictions would apear due to the language barrier. Examples are in the 10 commandments the area that says "Thou shalt not kill" is better translated into "You should not commit murder". Another example in which the bible says to abraham "take your son your only son and sacrifice him" is better translated to "take your heir, your only heir". The word "SON" does not translate smoothly from english to hebrew.

Any one can discredit a book due to to a difference in language. A science book that says the sun rises could be discredited because we all know the sun does NOT rise, but we are spinning on an axis. You still have failed to disprove Christianity, but then again I was never expecting youto be able to anyways. You're simply bringing up the same points you copy and paste off the internet without any real knowlege of it yourself.

Name to me WITHOUT googling, where the bible mentions the hydrolic cycle, where the bible desccibes dinosaurs, where the bible wards people fromeating unhealthy meats, where the bible mentions soap before it was discovered by the celts, where the bible mentions the earth as ROUND before scientists discovered it was. If you can tell me the location of half of these by using only a bible, then I will admit you know A BIT about the bible. If you say any of these do NOT exist in the bible then don't even continue arguin against Christianity.

[R3volution]

No, YOU read the old testiment. Those were laws with severe consiquences, in order to keep order, AND the laws where also to show how much we fell from perfection. THAT IS WHY A SACRIFICIAL LAMB WAS KILLED TO TAKE THE PLACE OF THE SINNER'S LIFE.


Two thing you gotta fix here before you spout more ignorance. Other bible translations ARE NOT based off the KJV, but off the greek and hebrew manuscripts. Second, the reason why the bible has been retranslated from Hebrew and Latin is because old english (the language the KJV is written in) did not translate alot of Hebrew hebrew phrases perfectly so certain contradictions would apear due to the language barrier. Examples are in the 10 commandments the area that says "Thou shalt not kill" is better translated into "You should not commit murder". Another example in which the bible says to abraham "take your son your only son and sacrifice him" is better translated to "take your heir, your only heir". The word "SON" does not translate smoothly from english to hebrew.

Any one can discredit a book due to to a difference in language. A science book that says the sun rises could be discredited because we all know the sun does NOT rise, but we are spinning on an axis. You still have failed to disprove Christianity, but then again I was never expecting youto be able to anyways. You're simply bringing up the same points you copy and paste off the internet without any real knowlege of it yourself.

Name to me WITHOUT googling, where the bible mentions the hydrolic cycle, where the bible desccibes dinosaurs, where the bible wards people fromeating unhealthy meats, where the bible mentions soap before it was discovered by the celts, where the bible mentions the earth as ROUND before scientists discovered it was. If you can tell me the location of half of these by using only a bible, then I will admit you know A BIT about the bible. If you say any of these do NOT exist in the bible then don't even continue arguin against Christianity.

i am no longer going to respond to your posts. you seem to be taking this far too seriously, and are even getting somewhat perturbed by the discussion.

The King James Version in its original form is one of the worst translations ever written. It was ordered written by King James of England after the death of William Shakespeare in honor of his beautiful writing style, thus the author that wrote it had motive to match Shakespeare's writing style. The biggest challenge a poet faces is choosing the best words to match the poetic form which most likely forced the author to make alterations from the scholarly translations.

There have been revisions to the original King James Version which are noted with a Authorized by the church.

Finally, New Bibles translations are not based on old ones. The New International Edition for example is based on the oldest known Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek editions overseen by hundreds of diverse scholars, and many phases of refinement before ever reaching the public.

you are right. i have made changes to my KJV post to make my statement make more sense.

[shintenzu]

i am no longer going to respond to your posts. you seem to be taking this far too seriously, and are even getting somewhat perturbed by the discussion.

This was not really a discussion to begin with. You made a bold and plain statement against Christianity (as well as muslims) and blamed it for the MOST oppression inflicted on the human race. You blamed the belief and not those who miscontrue the religion. You did not offer anymore of an explaination than of what the Catholic church did, yet you ignore all the protestants who seperated from the Catholic church because of all the deeds that went against the bible''s teachings.

You slam my belief with an accusation you cannot even hold and expect me to not take this seriously. You don't even give me a straight answer when i ask you question after i answer all of your statements. If you could not handle an arguement then you should not have started the accusation in the first place.

[eskuAdradit0]

Allegory of the cave anyone?

QFT !