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Old 05-24-2008, 05:10 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Default Re: 1Tap [KGunZ]

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Allow me to explain it to you.

First of all, I've recently changed the name of the system to Divine Gates because the original term "Monk Style" contained two definitions which caused confusion.

Tortoise Gate, as you are referring to, is not "Block Tapping". Tortoise Gate is a consistent execution of the Block command from one Block to another Block while canceling the delay in between each Block to the maximum limit, signified by Animation Freeze. There are two ways it can be achieved; timing or spamming(tapping). Tortoise Gate can also be referred to as Void Block, a name created after Tortoise Gate was introduced by Monk. Also, "Block Tapping" doesn't explain anything other than tapping the Block button.

Dragon Gate is not Triple Butterfly. Triple Butterfly is an amount of Butterflies done within the limit of a single Jump on leveled surface, while Dragon Gate defines certain speeds. Dragon Gate is Slash>Block>Repeat(In Mid-air) with the delay in between each combination canceled to the maximum limit, signified by Animation Freeze. Why do I say speed with a plural? Simply because the Animation Cancellation(not delay cancellation) speed can vary.

Triple Butterfly was indeed introduced before Monk introduced Dragon Gate(former "Monkey Rapes Retard"), as I had witnessed in some records I found. But the point is, Dragon Gate is not Triple Butterfly. Dragon Gate can be achieved without doing Double nor Triple Butterfly. In fact, Triple Butterfly can be done in varying Delay Cancellation speeds. This variation proves that Triple Butterfly is not Dragon Gate.

The efficiency of Four Divine Gates can be determined by the way in which the performer decides to use them. This goes for every move and technique in the game. You must understand that there is no such thing as style versus style, move versus move, nor technique versus technique. What should be considered is not any of that, but player versus player.

I hope that this clear things up for you.
Look at that. This post has much more intelligence then anything I've seen in this thread. It makes sense, explains history of things. Differentiates Dragon Gate from TBF. *I'm not quite sure the differences myself as I've not seen someone use DG in game.* Good post.

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^i cant careless about both of those moves lol....utterly pointless, well, tbfly is only usable when you have someone trapped in the corner, but not much else...
Not entirely. TBF can indeed be done with a dash, and I have suspicions that you can add two dashes to it.
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Old 05-24-2008, 08:19 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Default Re: 1Tap [KGunZ]

Once again, the efficiency of a style, move, or technique is determined by the method in which the player decides to use them and not by themselves.

Also, Fallen Angel, I do not think you understand my previous post. Please take your time when reading it again.

Keep yourselves updated on Divine Gates at my Youtube Channel: YouTube - ThePedoBrothers's Channel It might help to open your minds.
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Old 05-24-2008, 08:21 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Not entirely. TBF can indeed be done with a dash, and I have suspicions that you can add two dashes to it.
There is Quadruple Butterfly and it is done with a Dash. Keep yourself updated on my Youtube Channel.
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Old 05-25-2008, 03:07 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Look at that. This post has much more intelligence then anything I've seen in this thread. It makes sense, explains history of things. Differentiates Dragon Gate from TBF. *I'm not quite sure the differences myself as I've not seen someone use DG in game.* Good post.
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Old 05-25-2008, 03:39 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Default Re: 1Tap [KGunZ]

sounds to me, if you are doing 1 TAP after all, that it would be a legitimate way to name a gear tapped half step straight at a player where the slash hits then you pull back and shoot them in the feet. If you have ever seen Sailgun (LoveProph) play, he does this ALL the time to kill players.

X---->O
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X->==O

X = You
O = Opponent
-- = Dashing
> = Slash/Direction of movement
== means the shots path as it is fired
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Old 05-26-2008, 04:07 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Default Re: 1Tap [KGunZ]

It is possible, here are the controls:

Jump -> Slash -> Gun 1+Dash+Shoot+Reload -> Sword -> Slash -> RHS with Gun 2...

xd summed it down cuz im lazy @ 3 AM.
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Old 06-05-2008, 12:29 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Impossible, and sounds like utter useless crap even if possible. Don't you people think AT ALL these days? No, of course not, you just rush to learn the move that has the most 23483842 shots in the least ammount of time possible and spam that. You don't even know the basic game mechanics enough to see for yourself what's possible/useful and what isn't. If you have any brains you don't even need any move better than HS to beat the majority of people nowadays.
Ok, erm, well, I can only say one thing to you.
Shut up if you have no idea, thank you. I don't like idiots who go, OMG OMG this move is useless because it's hard to do, i don't know about it, it has a stupid name, and i won't be using it!!
Ok, lets say ALL of the above is true, so what, it's still good for SHOWING OFF. (really, that's what gunz is all about)

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Apparently its a move that allows you to have 3 dashes, 2 sword cuts and 2 bullets in the space of one jump....42ndsheep's tutorial didnt explain it well enough, and i couldnt find the replay, scubas didnt have it at all....so im looking for someone to give me a replay here (hopefull) as well as give me the proper steps....
It's called DHS.... BUT
1. It's a misnomer (which means the name is very misleading)
You do a SILENT SS (means ss > silentdash), and then do a normal HS. (dash > ss > dash). SS>HS does not equal 2 HS.
2. It's useless, hard to control, easy to get stopped and hard to master if you are using dual shotguns (which means you have to throw in an extra reload in the silent dash, which happens to be the hardest part of the entire thing)

So, i assume you know how to do the SS and HS...
The silent dash is the hard part.
To start off, you must first realize that a silent dash can be cancelled into a normal dash just by dashing. which means, it's possible to do silentdash>dash
To test this out, try doing a flashstep without the first dash
jump > slash > switch to gun > switch to sword > dash
the dash should be silent, then immediately after the silent dash, do a normal dash.
Do the same press pressing dash and switch to sword at the last part of the SS in the DHS
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:51 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Default Re: 1Tap [KGunZ]

Even though I don't completely agree with Block Tapping, Tortoise Gate does not require custom ingame keys. It could be done with Default. Some people say that you need a Special Keyboard/Mouse, this is somewhat partially incorrect. Using a unique Keyboard/Mouse, does help in performing the Divine Gates, but as I stated before, it could be done with Default Keys. The differences between Triple Butterfly and Dragon Gate is that Triple Butterfly defines only 3 BF in 1 jump. Dragon Gate is the Numbers of BF done in a second/time. The animation freeze in Dragon Gate is an optional choice, some players can go faster than others. I don't completely agree with the "Go Beyond Limits" thing but, yeah. Tortoise Gate can be Block Tapping, but even if you Block Tap, the animation would never appear, and Tortoise Gate is developed to block at least 90% of the hits taken. 2 Keys, can be much easier for the Divine Gates, but Default can work just as well.
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Old 06-06-2008, 01:31 AM   #39 (permalink)
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sense, mstyle IS USELESS. not only is it USELESS, it's FAKE. Everything BESIDES the tbfly (Which is all mstyle IS) was made YEARS before. Turtle Gate? MY ASS. it's BLOCK TAPPING (Yknow, TAPPING THE BLOCK KEY?)


ffs man >>"


Also, I said I have no clue what 1tap is, i never said it existed. It sounds like Forbidden/PPQ/PPQ+ ETC. ETC. ETC (Theres gotta be 500 ***in names for that stupid move by now) and yes, it's basically useless. Doing a RSS = faster and more efficient.
Good sir, I am a D-Styler.
Block Tapping isn't tapping the block key, that's called blocking. Block tapping is tapping someone's block with your dagger so they get a massive and you have no recoil.

Learn to play the game, sir.
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Good sir, I am a D-Styler.
Block Tapping isn't tapping the block key, that's called blocking. Block tapping is tapping someone's block with your dagger so they get a massive and you have no recoil.

Learn to play the game, sir.
Actually, Block Tapping is to continuously tap your block button to reduce/block all hits. This dagger stab you're talking about is just avoiding recoil. But since I have little knowledge of Daggers, I might not know much of them.
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>1Tap

It's possible.
Train EightStep with a Shot and shoot also at the first switch of it. Then u'll have what u want.

EightStep:
Jump+Switch(w->s)->dash(*)->dash->switch(w->s)->dash
With one shot:
Jump+Switch(w->s)->dash(*)->
dash->switch(w)+holdLMB(shot)+switch(s)->dash
With two shots:
Jump+Switch(w)+holdLMB(shot)+switch(s)->dash(*)->
dash->switch(w)+holdLMB(shot)+switch(s)->dash

(*) at highest position of jump

That's 3 dashes and two shots in one jump. It's possible but really hard to perform. I successed just one time until now.
But this is a well known move on JGunZ.
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Old 06-07-2008, 03:47 PM   #42 (permalink)
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wtf is all dis discussion
DHS can be done with a normal person with double pistols
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Actually, Block Tapping is to continuously tap your block button to reduce/block all hits. This dagger stab you're talking about is just avoiding recoil. But since I have little knowledge of Daggers, I might not know much of them.
blocktapping has been a term in dstyle long before 4 gates
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Actually, Block Tapping is to continuously tap your block button to reduce/block all hits. This dagger stab you're talking about is just avoiding recoil. But since I have little knowledge of Daggers, I might not know much of them.
Shut up plz, already owned yourself.

Block Tap: Tapping block to avoid recoil
What you're talking about: Button mashing.

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Old 06-07-2008, 07:13 PM   #45 (permalink)
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oH MY GOD THIS THREAD CONTAINS LOGIC, **** ALL OVER IT GO.
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