Who Here Hybrids

[Mad Hank]

Originally Posted by manofsparrow

Person A: I can tumble!
Person B: Lemme teach you teh half-step!
Person A: I can do teh half-step nao!
Person B: Nao u r a K-styler!
Person A: Yays! Oops, I messed up my half-step and did a tumble instead!
Person B: Noes! Now ur a E-styler again!
Person A: Wait, why don't I tumble half teh time I play and half-step the other half?
Person B: UR A GENIUS! YOUR IDEA WILL CHANGE GUNZ FOREVER!
Person A: THX! It took me forever to come up with that idea. I need to make a cool name to remember it.
Person B: OOH! Lets call it H-style, becuz ur from Hungary.

I... lol'd.... oMFGROFL

[Mach-6]

H-Style is K-Style in nature, however there is the major difference:
1. You don't have two shotguns.
Which means you have to play a lot differently then standard fare rs/rss/rhs. Twitching to aim is way less useful. Playing close-range is a lot different. Your general movement is slower (as you need time to shoot a reasonable amount of bullets or you may as well use two shotguns) Trade off being that you get very good precision and you're overall stronger in mid-range and better off against revolvers. Also shotgun-rifle is (feels like one to me) a strong counter against shotgun-rocket.

We all know it's Kstyle + rifle, but then there's the 'not really'. So instead of saying K-Style with rifle we may as well say H-Style.

[Kiedo]

Originally Posted by Mach-6

H-Style is K-Style in nature, however there is the major difference:
1. You don't have two shotguns.
Which means you have to play a lot differently then standard fare rs/rss/rhs. Twitching to aim is way less useful. Playing close-range is a lot different. Your general movement is slower (as you need time to shoot a reasonable amount of bullets or you may as well use two shotguns) Trade off being that you get very good precision and you're overall stronger in mid-range and better off against revolvers.

We all know it's Kstyle + rifle, but then there's the 'not really'. So instead of saying K-Style with rifle we may as well say H-Style.

The type of gun you use has no effect on Style.

[prof]

Originally Posted by Kiedo

The type of gun you use has no effect on Style.

This is true. The gun you use doesn't affect the style, but the way you use them does. A K-Stylist wouldn't stand around and shoot his gun, would he? Of course not. K-Style is performed while jumping around like a rabbit on crack, .. D-Style is pretty much the same, but more evasive. Notice how you can't aim at all jumping around like this? ..Well, easily. Any good E-Styler would harness the ability to aim by moving seldom, but enough to evade pitiful shots from a blind opponent.

You could consider H-Style to be mixing the ability to aim(actually stopping to aim) with the ability to jump around with a melee weapon.

[Kiedo]

Originally Posted by prof

This is true. The gun you use doesn't affect the style, but the way you use them does. A K-Stylist wouldn't stand around and shoot his gun, would he? Of course not. K-Style is performed while jumping around like a rabbit on crack, .. D-Style is pretty much the same, but more evasive. Notice how you can't aim at all jumping around like this? ..Well, easily. Any good E-Styler would harness the ability to aim by moving seldom, but enough to evade pitiful shots from a blind opponent.

You could consider H-Style to be mixing the ability to aim(actually stopping to aim) with the ability to jump around with a melee weapon.

As usual, you are wrong. You can K-Style without jumping at all so your entire argument is void.

[prof]

All K-Style related moves involve you in the air. You cannot K-Style without doing something with your sword, so your entire argument is void.

[Kiedo]

Originally Posted by prof

All K-Style related moves involve you in the air. You cannot K-Style without doing something with your sword, so your entire argument is void.

You know nothing about GunZ. Thank you for posting this so I can link back to it whenever you claim to know anything.

[prof]

Originally Posted by Kiedo

You know nothing about GunZ. Thank you for posting this so I can link back to it whenever you claim to know anything.

I lol'd. You've lost the ability to fight back to your own argument, or have you simply given up?

[Kiedo]

Originally Posted by prof

All K-Style related moves involve you in the air. You cannot K-Style without doing something with your sword, so your entire argument is void.

Double Slash
Void Step
Shooting Instakill
Ground BF Variations
Etc etc

Get out of my forum.

[prof]

It's not your forum, and Christ, chill out. Void Step doesn't belong to a specific style, seeing as all melee weapons can do it. And jeez, I'm not 100% accurate on every K Style moves, cool it. You're argument still values to nothing.

[Blindside]

Originally Posted by prof

This is true. The gun you use doesn't affect the style, but the way you use them does.

False, no matter how you use your guns if you're even SWITCHING them with the same glitch set as kstyle, it's kstyle.

Originally Posted by prof

A K-Stylist wouldn't stand around and shoot his gun, would he? Of course not.

Would anyone in any "style" stand still while shooting people?
Only if you want to make yourself a really easy target, or if it's your first time playing.

Originally Posted by prof

K-Style is performed while jumping around like a rabbit on crack, .. D-Style is pretty much the same, but more evasive. Notice how you can't aim at all jumping around like this?

Yeah maybe if you absolutely suck. You have to aim no matter what you do.
You think hitting 7-8/10 shots with dual breakers is all luck?
Especially when you're fighting other people that move around a lot.

Originally Posted by prof

Any good PLAYER* would harness the ability to aim by moving seldom, but enough to evade pitiful shots from a blind opponent.

Fixed, and, what? Last time I checked, no blind people play gunz.
Ever seen people walking back and forth while rs'ing?
Kstyle.

Originally Posted by prof

You could consider H-Style to be mixing the ability to aim(actually stopping to aim) with the ability to jump around with a melee weapon.

You think people who kstyle don't ground and aim? Again, walking rs's. Manymanymanymanymany people do it.


Oh, if the weapons you use is such an important factor concerning your "style", let's not forget about our good friend "Million Step". An HHS with rifle or mg. Multiple shots in one jump with a 'spray' weapon. It's a defined K-style move on the Gunzfactor mainpage.

[Machiko]

ur mom were hybrid

[prof]

Originally Posted by Blindside

False, no matter how you use your guns if you're even SWITCHING them with the same glitch set as kstyle, it's kstyle.

K Stylist specialize in switching using a glitch with sword, not just switching to it to fire.

Originally Posted by Blindside

Would anyone in any "style" stand still while shooting people?
Only if you want to make yourself a really easy target, or if it's your first time playing.

I think you've misunderstood me. I mean, look at K/D style, you're jumping around like crazy trying to evade as much as possible, while somebody else may play it cool and laid back, maybe turtle a bit to slow you down, while gunning you. E Style at its finest.

Originally Posted by Blindside

Yeah maybe if you absolutely suck. You have to aim no matter what you do.
You think hitting 7-8/10 shots with dual breakers is all luck?
Especially when you're fighting other people that move around a lot.

I should really rephrase what I've said in this matter. You always aim, no matter what. It's more of, "are you aiming it well". Most of the people that I've fought who actually hit me stop jumping around, just switch to a gun and walk around with it to shoot. Rare to find, but one of the smartest things I've ever seen.
Precision aiming and wild aiming are two different things.

Originally Posted by Blindside

Fixed, and, what? Last time I checked, no blind people play gunz.
Ever seen people walking back and forth while rs'ing?
Kstyle.

RS isn't in any style. It's just a move.

Originally Posted by Blindside

You think people who kstyle don't ground and aim? Again, walking rs's. Manymanymanymanymany people do it.

^

Originally Posted by Blindside

Oh, if the weapons you use is such an important factor concerning your "style", let's not forget about our good friend "Million Step". An HHS with rifle or mg. Multiple shots in one jump with a 'spray' weapon. It's a defined K-style move on the Gunzfactor mainpage.

I'm well aware of this. I've never said anything against it, as well.

[Blindside]

Originally Posted by prof

K Stylist specialize in switching using a glitch with sword, not just switching to it to fire.

I don't need a sword to switch weapons using kstyle, and it is possible to swapshot without rs'ing.

Originally Posted by prof

I think you've misunderstood me. I mean, look at K/D style, you're jumping around like crazy trying to evade as much as possible, while somebody else may play it cool and laid back, maybe turtle a bit to slow you down, while gunning you. E Style at its finest.

Cool, walk around blocking.
Then start dashing out of the way when people pb your feet. Really easy to aim when you're trying to get out of the way, right?
Congrats, you again demonstrate your exceeding ability to disprove your own arguments.
Also, turtling is a universal sword skill, it's not "hybrid" exclusive.

Originally Posted by prof

I should really rephrase what I've said in this matter. You always aim, no matter what. It's more of, "are you aiming it well". Most of the people that I've fought who actually hit me stop jumping around, just switch to a gun and walk around with it to shoot. Rare to find, but one of the smartest things I've ever seen. Precision aiming and wild aiming are two different things.

Most of the people who fought you stop to aim.
Yet, it's rare to find.

*Edit I correct myself, most of the people who hit you stop to aim in order to do it.

Interesting.

And I guarantee you, if the player is skilled, they'll hit you weather or not they're moving.

Originally Posted by prof

RS isn't in any style. It's just a move.

I didn't claim that it was a style.
My point was that it's part of kstyle, it's a shooting move, and it doesn't involve, as you so eloquently worded, "Jumping around like a rabbit on crack".


And my point about Million Step was for the person who said that the weapons you use make a difference in reference to which style you're playing at.


My main argument is that "H-Style" isn't it's own style. There's nothing 'style exclusive' about it. It's just like saying that because you chain different moves together in K-Style, that you're playing your own unique way, or creating new moves.

It's not unique. You're just using some of the glitches that are involved in K-Style and for the rest of the time playing the game without them.
"H-Style" is more of a tactic than a style. Same with "E-Style".

[prof]

I foreseen you saying something like this. Blindside, do you K style(or D style) exactly by the book? I'd think not. You use each move in your own personal way, this is a fighting style. Even though K style is a defined style with a list of moves, you have your own little tactics and moves that you do to give you an edge, correct? That's your OWN style. There's 3 base styles, K/D/E(lulz, that's a linux version xD), but you use them all whenever possible to get your kill.

Take Kiedo for instance, he creates his own moves quite often, but he takes the time to publicize them and make them known. You on the other hand, create your own little moves that help you in a fight to proceed, you just don't take such an extensive amount of time to let it be known. This is where custom styles come from, this is always where H style comes from.

H style is the form of mixing several different styles of fighting together. For instance: Turtle is considerably E style, using a special tactic not defined in any other style to get the kill, while still not abusing some kind of glitch. This turtling is using a sword, which has been in the past defined many times as "any move with a sword is k style", but this is a false statement. Jumping around butterflying is fine and dandy, shooting a shotgun several times is alright to add in, but when you go to turn around with a quick hs/ss/hhs/wtfeversshhshsqqppyi, and hit this block head on, what happens?

You enter a recoil state, which leaves you vulnerable for many things. Massive, flip, shooting, what ever it takes. This is E style, you could easily begin butterflying, then it would be H style; mixing e and k together to win.