Existance of God argument+vid

[Amon]

Originally Posted by manofsparrow

Deeeiiism?

Hm, maybe?

Why? is deism wrong?

[manofsparrow]

Originally Posted by Amon

Hm, maybe?

Why? is deism wrong?

Deism is the belief that God exists, but doesn't interfere with our lives.

That would be a response to why God doesn't help the world right now.

[Amon]

Originally Posted by manofsparrow

Deism is the belief that God exists, but doesn't interfere with our lives.

That would be a response to why God doesn't help the world right now.

u forgot something.

Deism if the belief that God exists, but doesn't interfere with our lives, but i can think god is nature.
But i wouldnt use the word god. Nature is Nature, Nature created everything, not God.

Btw for all the believers answer me this:
Why did god help the slaves hundreds of years ago by giving moises the power to help them and don't help us now?

[manofsparrow]

Originally Posted by Amon

u forgot something.

Deism if the belief that God exists, but doesn't interfere with our lives, but i can think god is nature.
But i wouldnt use the word god. Nature is Nature, Nature created everything, not God.

If Nature created everything, what/who created Nature?

[Amon]

Originally Posted by manofsparrow

If Nature created everything, what/who created Nature?

LOL don't come with that, thats the way to take if u dont want to this argueing to go anywhere.

Nature created itself with existance stuff in the universe, it kept evolving and growing till the world was created, something had to exist before everything exist or it wouldnt exist simply anything till now.

But let me play ur game.

If God created everything, What/who created God?

And tell me what really is god to u?


How do u imagine god?

My called "God" is nature. what is really god to u?

[manofsparrow]

Originally Posted by Amon

LOL don't come with that, thats the way to take if u dont want to this argueing to go anywhere.

Nature created itself with existance stuff in the universe, it kept evolving and growing till the world was created, something had to exist before everything exist or it wouldnt exist simply anything till now.

That's a nice paradox. Nature created itself with 'existance stuff'. What created 'existance stuff'?

And you're 100% sure there isn't some sort of God, or that we aren't part of some alien experiment, or something like that?

But let me play ur game.

If God created everything, What/who created God?

And tell me what really is god to u?

My called "God" is nature. what is really god to u?

I don't believe in God.

ALSO: You like editing a lot. Try thinking your post over all the way and make sure you have everything you want to post before posting.

[Amon]

Originally Posted by manofsparrow

That's a nice paradox. Nature created itself with 'existance stuff'. What created 'existance stuff'?

As i said:
something had to exist before everything exist or it wouldnt exist simply anything till now.

Originally Posted by manofsparrow

And you're 100% sure there isn't some sort of God, or that we aren't part of some alien experiment, or something like that?

I already thought of that.
But im talking about the whole universe not just our planet, nature created the whole universe even aliens.


you don't believe in god, what do u believe in then?


And yea i love to edit, cuz everytime i read my post i remember about something new.

[manofsparrow]

Originally Posted by Amon

As i said:
something had to exist before everything exist or it wouldnt exist simply anything till now.

Yeah, that's an infinite loop.

I already thought of that.
But im talking about the whole universe not just our planet, nature created the whole universe even aliens.

And you're 100% certain that there isn't some sort of (Uncaring) God that created the universe? Or maybe nature created God, who created the universe?

you don't believe in god, what do u believe in then?

Nothing.

[Amon]

Originally Posted by manofsparrow

Yeah, that's an infinite loop.



And you're 100% certain that there isn't some sort of (Uncaring) God that created the universe? Or maybe nature created God, who created the universe?



Nothing.

Then tell me Who created who and who created who, of course there was something before everything and that something was nature.
And of course im not 100% sure, no1 is 100% sure thats why we are argueing, if some1 had 100% sure that god does or doesnt exist it would be like argueing if coca-cola exists or not, like some1 asks: "Does coca-cola exist?" and some1 answer: "yes". thats why this is all about opinion not sure.
And if u dont believe in anything how can u have an opinion about this?


Dot.


/End argueing with you. -.-'

[Colby]

Originally Posted by Amon

I agree with some stuff u said.

But my oppinion is this still this:
God is a way to explain things that ppl can't explain, like the old civilasation did, we are doing the same.

Oh, and why would be a god if he created us and left us in our own?
Thousands of good ppl die everyday, would our creator, Almighty God, let this kind of things happen? why?
Its like if u creat a baby, u will watch over him, u wont just leave him in the street dying.

I don't know, but that's my point. Nobody really knows, all I'm saying is, you shouldn't throw away the idea of God for those reasons alone. Who knows what the truth is, what I like to do is create my own theories and try to live by them and if they feel right I keep them going.

Originally Posted by manofsparrow

There's multiple religions in the world. Unless all of them are correct, there's at least one wrong religion. Do you think the founders of the 'wrong religion(s)' didn't just make stuff up?

Depends, they may have created these religions based on what they didn't know, if that's the case it's not necessarily wrong, but it's not enough to convince me, and that's the important part. People can either take to your ideas or reject them, in the end we don't know though. In my opinion though, what deity would be so cruel as to leave no solid clues to their existence, and yet be unwilling to accept lost souls into their paradise (generally speaking).

I think the only ones that should go to "Hell" (Hades/Whatever other place) are the ones that believe the religion and just openly reject the "protagonist" so to speak. Like Satanists.

[manofsparrow]

Originally Posted by Amon

Then tell me Who created who and who created who, of course there was something before everything and that something was nature.

If there's something before everything, there's something before nature.

And of course im not 100% sure, no1 is 100% sure thats why we are argueing, if some1 had 100% sure that god does or doesnt exist it would be like argueing if coca-cola exists or not, like some1 asks: "Does coca-cola exist?" and some1 answer: "yes". thats why this is all about opinion not sure.

Sorry, I have the habit of trying to make other people say "In my opinion" whenever they state their beliefs/opinions.

And if u dont believe in anything how can u have an opinion about this?

By questioning other people's opinions.

/End argueing with you. -.-'

Good. Now go back to arguing with Colby while I go to sleep.

[Amon]

Originally Posted by Colby

I don't know, but that's my point. Nobody really knows, all I'm saying is, you shouldn't throw away the idea of God for those reasons alone. Who knows what the truth is, what I like to do is create my own theories and try to live by them and if they feel right I keep them going.

yea ur right, nobody knows.

I was just expressing my theory, don't hate me for that .

If god rly exist i will know anyway when i die or something.

[Amon]

Originally Posted by manofsparrow

If there's something before everything, there's something before nature.



Sorry, I have the habit of trying to make other people say "In my opinion" whenever they state their beliefs/opinions.



By questioning other people's opinions.

hmm ok man. >.<

theres no point in keeping argueing , i stated my opinion u stated urs, is what the threads asks, now we can't rly prove anything so our work here is done.

[manofsparrow]

I thought the thread was asking us to spot the major flaw in the video's argument.

Anyone wanna tell me what it is?

OK, so is the main point "Everything can be evidence"?
Ok, so "Everything can be evidence, and you have to interpret evidence in the correct way?"

[Captain_Cool]

Plz srsly. think about it God. srsly its so lame blown up story (not flaming anyone) but its just so ****in treu. I cant even imagine how dumb these ppl are by believing in god and do not see the reality. then pls explain me why you believe in god. is god and heaven a excuse for ur problems or is it because ur scared of death? ( and dont read this as a flame)