The Atomic Bomb

[manofsparrow]

Originally Posted by Colby

I know, I said probably because I was assuming what else might have happened if we continued fighting. Who knows.

That guy on the news that got killed in a car accident; maybe he would of discovered the cure for AIDS if he survived, or maybe he would become the next Hitler.

[Citrus]

***in japs were going crazy and going all kamikaze on our bltch ass. they bombed pear harbor with ***in planes?
trying to take over world?
keep people hostage?

***in right they deserved it.

and dont come back at me with ur liberal democratic fag self and say poor japs, cuz they be bombin yo family, taking over islands. pretending some hiro hito is god when he is like 20 yr old? watching anime? creating anime? being fags, weird, kamakaze fags.

yes, they needed to be bombed.

and u eu fags r all like american r mean cuz they blow up innocent twink eye.

u gettin ur ass lit up by hitler,
but gj england not surrender to the fag, all thx to church hill. he is good man in my eye.
but rest of eu, shut ur fucin mouth.

[Mr.Lucifer]

Originally Posted by Citrus

***in japs were going crazy and going all kamikaze on our bltch ass. they bombed pear harbor with ***in planes?
trying to take over world?
keep people hostage?

***in right they deserved it.

and dont come back at me with ur liberal democratic fag self and say poor japs, cuz they be bombin yo family, taking over islands. pretending some hiro hito is god when he is like 20 yr old? watching anime? creating anime? being fags, weird, kamakaze fags.

yes, they needed to be bombed.

and u eu fags r all like american r mean cuz they blow up innocent twink eye.

u gettin ur ass lit up by hitler,
but gj england not surrender to the fag, all thx to church hill. he is good man in my eye.
but rest of eu, shut ur fucin mouth.

Russia has OVER NINE THOUSAND more nuclear weapons than the US. Plus they did A LOT during WWII. Didn't they reach Berlin first? And guess what, the main part of it is in Europe. USA is weak but with big mouths.

[Colby]

Originally Posted by manofsparrow

That guy on the news that got killed in a car accident; maybe he would of discovered the cure for AIDS if he survived, or maybe he would become the next Hitler.

Yes yes, I see your point (-.-) In any case, we did save Japanese lives AND American lives.

[Admiral Awesome (115 votes)]

Originally Posted by FJTT

But even look at the after effects. Japaneese babbies were becoming deformed and children/adults. Then even in the cold war, Bolth Russia and The US had enough nuclear bombs to destroy the world 32 times over. And as for people that say that no country will ever use it, just look at North Korea how they tested the bombs of course they could just have been testing it, but mabye it was for another purpose as well as Iraq buying nuclear bombs from Russia(think or somthing like that).

Once again, they were coming either way, whether or not we developed and/or used them ourselves.

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This all reminds me of a nice quote I read,

Originally Posted by Quote(Author unkown to Admiral)

I Know Not with What Weapons WWIII Will Be Fought, but WWIV Will Be Fought with Sticks and Stones

Edit:

Originally Posted by Mr.Lucifer

Russia has OVER NINE THOUSAND more nuclear weapons than the US. Plus they did A LOT during WWII. Didn't they reach Berlin first? And guess what, the main part of it is in Europe. USA is weak but with big mouths.

What nation are you from and/or live in?

[Atomic]

Im bad .

[Citrus]

Originally Posted by Mr.Lucifer

Russia has OVER NINE THOUSAND more nuclear weapons than the US. Plus they did A LOT during WWII. Didn't they reach Berlin first? And guess what, the main part of it is in Europe. USA is weak but with big mouths.

rofl, weak? no haha, more nucular weapons, maybe. but no one really knows.
yeah u guys did do good, get 2 berlin first. but hey didnt mr joseph stalin kill more people than hitler? hey we never had that here in us =[.
but u guys good country dont get me wrong. but usa, is not weak buddy.
def a world power.

[death song]

Personally, I think that picking a civilian target to demonstrate a weapon of mass destruction was a war crime. If I was president of any nuclear country (except North Korea maybe) I would get rid of the entire arsenal and shut down all our reactors and drop all our uranium & plutonium into the Marianas Trech.

[Mr.Lucifer]

Originally Posted by Admiral Awesome

What nation are you from and/or live in?

Norway, not Russia.

Originally Posted by PANPANPANPANPAN

The entire world would be destroyed with just eleven nuclear bombs. Your numbers mean nothing.

The fact that you think the USA is weak is beyond hilarious. We're easily the strongest country in the world and if you can't see that you're blind.

How long have you been in Iraq? Or Afghanistan? Strong my ass. Having a million soldiers don't count for **** when you can't use them.

Originally Posted by Citrus

rofl, weak? no haha, more nucular weapons, maybe. but no one really knows.
yeah u guys did do good, get 2 berlin first. but hey didnt mr joseph stalin kill more people than hitler? hey we never had that here in us =[.
but u guys good country dont get me wrong. but usa, is not weak buddy.
def a world power.

Only good military. It sucks to be a citizen there.

[Admiral Awesome (115 votes)]

Originally Posted by Mr.Lucifer

Norway, not Russia.

Never said you were from Russia. Norway isn't exactly a military power.

P.S. Everyone is getting their facts from google and wikipedia recently, so I took a quick look at our military articles to compare them.

United States Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Size: As of June 30, 2008, the Regular Army reported a strength of 531,526 soldiers.[3] By the end of 2006, the Army National Guard (ARNG) reported 346,288 and the United States Army Reserve (USAR) reported 189,975, putting the approximate combined component strength total at 1,067,789.

Norwegian Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Size: Established in 1628, it currently has a peacetime strength of 16,000, and approximately 51,000 fully mobilized

We have more reserves than you have actual soldiers. Apparently you also have mandatory military service.

Edit: oh and here's this - List of countries by number of active troops - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - The United States is ranked 7th in total number of men and 2nd in active. That's not exactly weak.

How long have you been in Iraq? Or Afghanistan? Strong my ass. Having a million soldiers don't count for **** when you can't use them.

Of course we don't deploy our entire Army, Marine, Navy, and Air Force strengths out to these places. We do need to be able to defend ourselves or other points of interests. Also, the whole point of not blowing everything up is so it can eventually be brought back to order. If we intended on wiping Afghanistan and Iraq clear off the map we would have done so already.

How war is fought changes. We don't exchange Musket blasts anymore, nor are we at war with Afghanistan or Iraq. If we went in and shot every man woman and child that possibly was a "terrorist" which I'm using as a generic term, we would be moving a whole lot faster, but we're not at war with them. There's no-one who will make the terrorists surrender regardless of how many of them we kill.

I don't think I need to say any more.

[Mr.Lucifer]

Originally Posted by Admiral Awesome

Never said you were from Russia. Norway isn't exactly a military power.

That's as irrelevent as your first question.

Originally Posted by Admiral Awesome

P.S. Everyone is getting their facts from google and wikipedia recently, so I took a quick look at our military articles to compare them.

United States Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Size: As of June 30, 2008, the Regular Army reported a strength of 531,526 soldiers.[3] By the end of 2006, the Army National Guard (ARNG) reported 346,288 and the United States Army Reserve (USAR) reported 189,975, putting the approximate combined component strength total at 1,067,789.

Norwegian Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Size: Established in 1628, it currently has a peacetime strength of 16,000, and approximately 51,000 fully mobilized

We have more reserves than you have actual soldiers. Apparently you also have mandatory military service.



Edit: oh and here's this - List of countries by number of active troops - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - The United States is ranked 7th in total number of men and 2nd in active. That's not exactly weak.

No wonder. Norway is a country with less than 5 million inhabitants. We rely on NATO. If any country were to invade us now we would be screwed hadn't it been for that. I've never said Norway was mighty. It's strange you use so much time proving such an obvious fact. I was clearly saying Russia was stronger than the US.

Originally Posted by Admiral Awesome

Of course we don't deploy our entire Army, Marine, Navy, and Air Force strengths out to these places. We do need to be able to defend ourselves or other points of interests. Also, the whole point of not blowing everything up is so it can eventually be brought back to order. If we intended on wiping Afghanistan and Iraq clear off the map we would have done so already.

How war is fought changes. We don't exchange Musket blasts anymore, nor are we at war with Afghanistan or Iraq. If we went in and shot every man woman and child that possibly was a "terrorist" which I'm using as a generic term, we would be moving a whole lot faster, but we're not at war with them, there's no-one who will make them surrender regardless of how many of them we kill. They're killing themselves to kill us.

You intended to go in to take Saddam Hussein because he supposedly had nuclear weapons (the nuclear program was later found out to have been stopped in 1991, 12 years before the invasion) and was friends with Al-Qaeda (even though he was fighting them, as everyone else in the world already knew).

You bombed civilians and it's perfectly understandable for anyone with more than 3 braincells that any person who got their family and friends killed is willing to kill himself to avenge his/her beloved ones. I also wonder why there's still fighting there, 5 years after the "bad guy" was taken, if you intended to let it come back to order. Even Germany got back to order faster and no one ever thought of their future when they invaded from all sides and bombed as much as they could.

[Admiral Awesome (115 votes)]

Originally Posted by Mr.Lucifer

That's as irrelevent as your first question.

Just letting you know where you stood with such "weakness."

No wonder. Norway is a country with less than 5 million inhabitants. We rely on NATO. If any country were to invade us now we would be screwed hadn't it been for that. I've never said Norway was mighty. It's strange you use so much time proving such an obvious fact. I was clearly saying Russia was stronger than the US.

"Weak with big mouths" is hardly simply saying that Russia has more men.

Typing Wikipedia.org and searching Norwegian Army, US Army and then clicking on a char with a comparison in nation strength is hardly time or effort.

Edit: Russia has conscription by the way.

You intended to go in to take Saddam Hussein because he supposedly had nuclear weapons (the nuclear program was later found out to have been stopped in 1991, 12 years before the invasion) and was friends with Al-Qaeda (even though he was fighting them, as everyone else in the world already knew).

You bombed civilians and it's perfectly understandable for anyone with more than 3 braincells that any person who got their family and friends killed is willing to kill himself to avenge his/her beloved ones. I also wonder why there's still fighting there, 5 years after the "bad guy" was taken, if you intended to let it come back to order. Even Germany got back to order faster and no one ever thought of their future when they invaded from all sides and bombed as much as they could.

I never said it was a good idea to go in nor would it be sunshine and rainbows after the leader(s) was taken. It also doesn't take more than 3 brain cells to know that all those terrorists are not only relatives of people killed in the Iraq and Afghanistan. Germany was organized enough to fight a real war(and take a lot in the process) if that gives you any indication as to why they might be able to restore themselves better than lets say Afghanistan and Iraq.

[Terraka]

Dropping the Atomic Bomb did this:
1) A nice deterrence to any future nations thinking of even having any conflicts with the US (Namely, a warning to the Russians). The US even held a monopoly over Nuclear Weaponary for a good 4 years too.

2) They officially stated that this bombing would end the war swiftly, and prevent greater casualities to both sides.

Not sure my stance on this, but the A-bomb did force the Japanese to surrender quite quickly, else (to quote President Truman) "If they do not accept our terms, they may expect a rain of ruin from the air the likes of which has never been seen on this earth."


@The War in Iraq, that war should technically be over by now... it was even announced that "major conflicts" have ended... but the problem? You can thank Paul Bremer for that. His awesome-ass policies and decisions ended up creating one big-ass insurgency. Great, putting some mofo, who didn't know jack all, in charge.

*For all those who don't know what he did:
1) He created an interim Iraqi government, which is basically a government with positions for people he chose (or in other words, a message to the Iraqi people at who the TRUE rulers are)
2) He implimented "debathification", which he fired over 50 000 people who were members of the Bath Party.
3) He disbanded the Iraqi Army, which led to the unemployment of half a million armed men.
*

[Mr.Lucifer]

Originally Posted by Admiral Awesome

Just letting you know where you stood with such "weakness."



"Weak with big mouths" is hardly simply saying that Russia has more men.

Typing Wikipedia.org and searching Norwegian Army, US Army and then clicking on a char with a comparison in nation strength is hardly time or effort.

Edit: Russia has conscription by the way.



I never said it was a good idea to go in nor would it be sunshine and rainbows after the leader(s) was taken. It also doesn't take more than 3 brain cells to know that all those terrorists are not only relatives of people killed in the Iraq and Afghanistan. Germany was organized enough to fight a real war(and take a lot in the process) if that gives you any indication as to why they might be able to restore themselves better than lets say Afghanistan and Iraq.

I stand pretty damn well. My country hasn't started a war in hmm... 900 years? The biggest risk is having Russia invading. That's a very small risk.

"Weak with big mouths" mean you consider yourself bigger than you are. Threatening Russia, like your current president is doing, is really dumb.

I assume you haven't lived in a conscription country? In my country the army barely recruits anyone. As long as you use glasses you're pretty much free. It's a shame I had a patella dislocation though, the education and salary in the military are really great. Unlike your country who recruits with "brainwashing" commercials.

It doesn't take brain cells to know such things, it requires statistics. I assume most of the terrorists have in an indirect or direct way become terrorists because of the war.
Nothing is rainbows after a war. But bombing and killing thousands of civilians, instead of only bombing strategic locations as is normal in todays warfare, is not ensuring a good future for the country.
Germanys infrastructure (both military and civilian) was destroyed, 10 million died, they were occupied by allied forces, their country were ripped apart... Yet they got order.

[manofsparrow]

Originally Posted by Admiral Awesome

Of course we don't deploy our entire Army, Marine, Navy, and Air Force strengths out to these places. We do need to be able to defend ourselves or other points of interests. Also, the whole point of not blowing everything up is so it can eventually be brought back to order. If we intended on wiping Afghanistan and Iraq clear off the map we would have done so already.

Many countries can already do that. Especially with nukes. The point of not blowing everything up is to avoid pissing other countries, and probably many of its own citizens off.