Youtube to hand over all user histories and IP addresses! - Page 2

Sharpy · 07-03-2008, 10:25 PM

Wow they are taking more than 1 billion, they are TAKING PEOPLES LIVES this is complete BS and they have no precedented reason to take someones private information, its just because the judge is some 70 year old man or woman who has NO idea what the internet is besides a series of tubes

~~Pitbull~~ · 07-03-2008, 11:15 PM

you guys have nothing to worry about really because you could easily say that you didnt know it was a link to watch a movie online at youtube. like you could say you got a virius and it changed your homepage to that link(s) ect. or you could say someone on a online forum put a site to Google but it really was www.youtube/haxmovies or w/e .com. because it doesnt show that u watch the hole movie. it saves it that you viewed it. even if it was for a second. so dont worry peeps.

Liquidfox · 07-03-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitbull

you guys have nothing to worry about really because you could easily say that you didnt know it was a link to watch a movie online at youtube. like you could say you got a virius and it changed your homepage to that link(s) ect. or you could say someone on a online forum put a site to Google but it really was www.youtube/haxmovies or w/e .com. because it doesnt show that u watch the hole movie. it saves it that you viewed it. even if it was for a second. so dont worry peeps.

You're not making excuses with your parents, you're probably facing the law.

Pizza Box · 07-03-2008, 11:35 PM

Well if viacom makes the first step up to this, im expecting all other major companies to follow suit.

Liquidfox · 07-04-2008, 12:06 AM

YouTube - Hornets From Hell

Hornet = Viacom
Bees = Us.

FJTT · 07-04-2008, 01:04 AM

Which is why you always delete everything in your history/temp internet files

Queerful · 07-04-2008, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FJTT

Which is why you always delete everything in your history/temp internet files

or if you dont feel like deleting it every time you just set it to never save history

STM1993 · 07-04-2008, 03:05 AM

What? They wanna drag in everyone, from those who upload copyrighted material to those who are completely innocent? And then take possible private information from us from our IP addresses?

I think I got a better solution. Go and temporarily disallow people from UPLOADING to Youtube, give the entire list of videos uploaded in Youtube, pick out all copyrighted material, track down the people who have uploaded these material, re-allow people to upload again, get people to keep watch over all newly uploaded material (by checking all new uploads) from then onwards. There, isn't it simple? Don't involve the innocent viewers...

death song · 07-04-2008, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by STM1993

I think I got a better solution. Go and temporarily disallow people from UPLOADING to Youtube, give the entire list of videos uploaded in Youtube, pick out all copyrighted material, track down the people who have uploaded these material, re-allow people to upload again, get people to keep watch over all newly uploaded material (by checking all new uploads) from then onwards. There, isn't it simple? Don't involve the innocent viewers...

The whole problem is that there are over 80 million videos on YouTube. If they were all 1 minute long, that is over 150 years of video. Just screening all the videos would take a very long time, and after watching a video it would take tons of research to prove that it isn't copyrighted material. This is precisely what Viacom wants YouTube to do -- instead of just taking down a video as soon as someone reports it as copyrighted (which seems reasonable to me). Viacom doesn't even have the facts it needs for the lawsuit, which is why they want to go fishing through our private data in the YouTube logs. And this stupid judge is letting them...

Mr.Lucifer · 07-04-2008, 07:19 AM

I just read that all the information will be anonymous and can't be used to track down individuals. Viacom will not have access to it either. A 3rd part is going to use it to create statistics on how many of the views are made on copyrighted movies.

slingblader · 07-04-2008, 02:08 PM

Even if they had my name, are they going to take action against the millions of repeat offenders, all over the world? no.

STM1993 · 07-05-2008, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by death song

The whole problem is that there are over 80 million videos on YouTube. If they were all 1 minute long, that is over 150 years of video. Just screening all the videos would take a very long time, and after watching a video it would take tons of research to prove that it isn't copyrighted material. This is precisely what Viacom wants YouTube to do -- instead of just taking down a video as soon as someone reports it as copyrighted (which seems reasonable to me). Viacom doesn't even have the facts it needs for the lawsuit, which is why they want to go fishing through our private data in the YouTube logs. And this stupid judge is letting them...

Mmm.... okay I get the picture now.

lordcarbo · 07-05-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chokichi

That's BS its a privacy invasion which im pretty sure is a human right !

When you surf the Internet, you leave your mark (IP address) all over the place. In other words, they're not actually invading your privacy-- you've already surrendered it by leaving your mark all over the place. If you are truly concerned about privacy, you wouldn't even be on the Internet.

slingblader · 07-05-2008, 01:23 PM

Yah, the fact that the IP addresses are available to Youtube kind of makes the whole argument null.

Seriatim · 07-05-2008, 03:22 PM

Logging database

Next up is a 12TB database containing logging information on every video ever watched at YouTube. Viacom wants to see just how often infringing clips were viewed, then compare this against noninfringing ones to prove its contention that YouTube, in the early days, was an engine powered mostly by the gasoline of illegal content. The database will also show which username and IP address watched every video, a move with potential privacy implications.

The data set is large, but the judge noted that it could be slapped on three "over-the-shelf" 4TB drives. Request granted, score tied at 2-2.

07-03-2008, 10:25 PM	#16 (permalink)
Sharpy Gunzfactorian Soldier Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 663 Sharpy's GamerBio	Re: Youtube to hand over all user histories and IP addresses! Wow they are taking more than 1 billion, they are TAKING PEOPLES LIVES this is complete BS and they have no precedented reason to take someones private information, its just because the judge is some 70 year old man or woman who has NO idea what the internet is besides a series of tubes __________________ ty 2 esku for my 1st sword ty 2 Destro for my 2nd sword

07-03-2008, 11:15 PM	#17 (permalink)
~~Pitbull~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: under your bed Posts: 5,360 Pitbull's GamerBio	Re: Youtube to hand over all user histories and IP addresses! you guys have nothing to worry about really because you could easily say that you didnt know it was a link to watch a movie online at youtube. like you could say you got a virius and it changed your homepage to that link(s) ect. or you could say someone on a online forum put a site to Google but it really was www.youtube/haxmovies or w/e .com. because it doesnt show that u watch the hole movie. it saves it that you viewed it. even if it was for a second. so dont worry peeps.

07-03-2008, 11:35 PM	#19 (permalink)
Pizza Box Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 22 Pizza Box's GamerBio	Re: Youtube to hand over all user histories and IP addresses! Well if viacom makes the first step up to this, im expecting all other major companies to follow suit.

07-04-2008, 01:04 AM	#21 (permalink)
FJTT Gunzfactorian Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,397	Re: Youtube to hand over all user histories and IP addresses! Which is why you always delete everything in your history/temp internet files __________________ I gave That 1 guy his 4th sword

07-04-2008, 03:05 AM	#23 (permalink)
STM1993 Gunzfactorian Guardian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,144	Re: Youtube to hand over all user histories and IP addresses! What? They wanna drag in everyone, from those who upload copyrighted material to those who are completely innocent? And then take possible private information from us from our IP addresses? I think I got a better solution. Go and temporarily disallow people from UPLOADING to Youtube, give the entire list of videos uploaded in Youtube, pick out all copyrighted material, track down the people who have uploaded these material, re-allow people to upload again, get people to keep watch over all newly uploaded material (by checking all new uploads) from then onwards. There, isn't it simple? Don't involve the innocent viewers... __________________ ~Spy_The_Man1993~ I'm leaving GunZ, forever. Last edited by STM1993; 07-04-2008 at 03:09 AM.

07-04-2008, 07:19 AM	#25 (permalink)
Mr.Lucifer Gunzfactorian Guardian Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,060	Re: Youtube to hand over all user histories and IP addresses! I just read that all the information will be anonymous and can't be used to track down individuals. Viacom will not have access to it either. A 3rd part is going to use it to create statistics on how many of the views are made on copyrighted movies.

07-04-2008, 02:08 PM	#26 (permalink)
slingblader Gunzfactorian Guardian Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,316 slingblader's GamerBio	Re: Youtube to hand over all user histories and IP addresses! Even if they had my name, are they going to take action against the millions of repeat offenders, all over the world? no. __________________ Click or it'll die! Then your families shall fall peril.

07-05-2008, 01:23 PM	#29 (permalink)
slingblader Gunzfactorian Guardian Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,316 slingblader's GamerBio	Re: Youtube to hand over all user histories and IP addresses! Yah, the fact that the IP addresses are available to Youtube kind of makes the whole argument null. __________________ Click or it'll die! Then your families shall fall peril.

07-05-2008, 03:22 PM	#30 (permalink)
Seriatim Gunzfactorian Commando Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: California Posts: 2,575 Seriatim's GamerBio	Re: Youtube to hand over all user histories and IP addresses! Logging database Next up is a 12TB database containing logging information on every video ever watched at YouTube. Viacom wants to see just how often infringing clips were viewed, then compare this against noninfringing ones to prove its contention that YouTube, in the early days, was an engine powered mostly by the gasoline of illegal content. The database will also show which username and IP address watched every video, a move with potential privacy implications. The data set is large, but the judge noted that it could be slapped on three "over-the-shelf" 4TB drives. Request granted, score tied at 2-2. __________________