Alternate Sources of Energy

[An Amateur]

Originally Posted by Mr.Lucifer

So... According to this you can put 5kw into a machine and get 25kw out? Doesn't that break some laws?

I believe that if it works, it works and the physical proofs prove most. So if what he say is true this is truly revolutionary and it's a shame scientists deny it. I have my doubts though.

Your thinking of the laws of Thermod Dynamics. And your right you shouldn't be able to get more net energy out than is put into a system. Basically "something cannot come from nothing". Since we see no figures, math or any theory explaining it I think its possible that were just not seeing the whole picture. Still best to be skepticle.

The real problem is that the large oil and fuel companies would rather find an energy source that people have to continuely buy as that will make them more money. Governments also have an interest in this because a fuel source like that can be heavily taxed. This kind of thinking leads to much money and time spent looking at this kind of alternative fuel source rather than backing research into these technologies.

These technologies can still be used its just that it will be a harder thing to get off the ground because of the afore mentioned reasons.

[LordShaft]

Originally Posted by An Amateur

The real problem is that the large oil and fuel companies would rather find an energy source that people have to continuely buy as that will make them more money. Governments also have an interest in this because a fuel source like that can be heavily taxed. This kind of thinking leads to much money and time spent looking at this kind of alternative fuel source rather than backing research into these technologies.

These technologies can still be used its just that it will be a harder thing to get off the ground because of the afore mentioned reasons.

Aka hydrogen

[goodboy5]

If it was enviromentally friendly, i support it.

[Joale]

I don't see this device being realistic, the video is completely vague. There's either more going on then what we're seeing, or this is really just a load of crap.
Energy is conserved, so if the energy output by the machine is more than what is input, it must be taking energy from somewhere else.
Initial energy supplied by battery jumpstart ---> Magnetics handle the rest...? The question to the second part is: What magnetic forces are they using, if its able to take so much energy from the environment.

[Yvgeniy]

Originally Posted by Joale

I don't see this device being realistic, the video is completely vague. There's either more going on then what we're seeing, or this is really just a load of crap.
Energy is conserved, so if the energy output by the machine is more than what is input, it must be taking energy from somewhere else.
Initial energy supplied by battery jumpstart ---> Magnetics handle the rest...? The question to the second part is: What magnetic forces are they using, if its able to take so much energy from the environment.

At this point I just think it's a hoax for the very reason you've stated, that it's too vague and there is no real proof or support. The second video is the only video that actually brings in an "expert." That's just one guy that I'm not willing to trust. I'd want to see a verification by many renown scientists than just this one guy. Besides, if this technology is so great then why isn't it still in use? Aside from the fact that electric companies wouldn't want this it can't be so bad. If the technology really did work then there would be tons of buyers willing to be the guinea pigs in testing this technology, but from the looks of either of those videos it's not the case.

[Pheerful]

isn't the core that sci fi channel movie with the hacker named Rat on it?

when they told him to write a program to remove all instances of the project name from the internet i laughed

[Hamburger]

Originally Posted by Pheerful

isn't the core that sci fi channel movie with the hacker named Rat on it?

when they told him to write a program to remove all instances of the project name from the internet i laughed

sUrE IS LOLZz

[Kaya]

I'll die before I need to care about resources .

[LordShaft]

Originally Posted by Pheerful

isn't the core that sci fi channel movie with the hacker named Rat on it?

when they told him to write a program to remove all instances of the project name from the internet i laughed

YouTube - "Rat" in The Core

[Selphie]

I have a feeling that once the oil companies realize that oil will not last forever they are going to turn to ethanol. (Corn)

They will probably buy hundreds upon hundreds of farm land purely dedicated to farming corn, and using it to make ethanol.

If they try to take the farming land from people growing corn for food purposes the cost of A LOT of things will increase. Read some labels on some everyday food items, corn is in everything.

But we all know oil companies only think about money, so I'm sure they will try to make anything corn related "theirs".


I'm surprised they haven't built something near the Ocean for Hydro. Like a down hill river to make a strong current for hydroelectricity. Niagara Falls powers a HUGE part of southern Ontario and parts of America...NY and Michigan? (I don't know america that well )

Well w/e they decided I'm sure it will be the wrong choice

[Mr.Lucifer]

Originally Posted by Selphie

I have a feeling that once the oil companies realize that oil will not last forever they are going to turn to ethanol. (Corn)

They will probably buy hundreds upon hundreds of farm land purely dedicated to farming corn, and using it to make ethanol.

If they try to take the farming land from people growing corn for food purposes the cost of A LOT of things will increase. Read some labels on some everyday food items, corn is in everything.

But we all know oil companies only think about money, so I'm sure they will try to make anything corn related "theirs".


I'm surprised they haven't built something near the Ocean for Hydro. Like a down hill river to make a strong current for hydroelectricity. Niagara Falls powers a HUGE part of southern Ontario and parts of America...NY and Michigan? (I don't know america that well )

Well w/e they decided I'm sure it will be the wrong choice

That alternative is dead. They already tried it and a lot of people died of hunger. The food prices skyrocketed.

Oil companies are not more greedy than others. They are humans too.

[Yvgeniy]

Originally Posted by Selphie

I have a feeling that once the oil companies realize that oil will not last forever they are going to turn to ethanol. (Corn)

They will probably buy hundreds upon hundreds of farm land purely dedicated to farming corn, and using it to make ethanol.

If they try to take the farming land from people growing corn for food purposes the cost of A LOT of things will increase. Read some labels on some everyday food items, corn is in everything.

But we all know oil companies only think about money, so I'm sure they will try to make anything corn related "theirs".


I'm surprised they haven't built something near the Ocean for Hydro. Like a down hill river to make a strong current for hydroelectricity. Niagara Falls powers a HUGE part of southern Ontario and parts of America...NY and Michigan? (I don't know america that well )

Well w/e they decided I'm sure it will be the wrong choice

Oil companies realize this very well, and they're doing everything they can to keep oil on the market. Hence why certain innovative technologies that don't involve oil got shut down in the past. Aside from that ethanol is already used in gas. This was a relatively recent development designed to please the farmers. Ethanol doesn't really improve the quality of gasoline, but with all the large supermarkets it's tough for farmers out there, and this is one way to give them better business. So the government ordered that all gas sold from now on contain ethanol, and gave some good reasons for why it should be there and how it improves it, blah blah.

Honestly, if you want to look at alternate fuel sources for vehicles you should look towards electric and hydrogen cars.