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Old 06-18-2008, 11:47 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I think you should try put your original post in bullet points, or something. It got really confusing and hard to digest.

I haven't thought about this fully yet, and I'd probably come up with something more coherent if I thought about it a little more. But - yes I do think time exists. Not the time as in the units we measure in, but time as in the space-time continuum that we currently exist within. I hope we can stray away from arguing semantics, i.e. time is a man-made measurement vs. time is a concept.

Our physical universe is pretty much placed within the constraints of time and space, even black holes are not timeless (they may bend time but it's not quite the same as destroying time). For example, there is a limited amount of space in the universe that is not infinite, even if it's pretty large. The universe takes time to expand further and further out, the planets take time to orbit around a gravitational field etc.

Everything you do requires time; some part of the spacial temple (space-time continuum) is affected by what you do. For example, if you raise your hand, think about what goes into that action. The food you eat and digest, the nerve impulses that transfer messages/commands, the blood pumping through your wrist, the exact action of your hand being raised carefully calculated by your body ... all take time to do. And then you're going to have to consider the 'space' side of the action - it takes up a certain amount of space, the density of your hand, the width, the length, the shape/dimension in relation to your body, the movement of the hand, the socket in your wrist and the joints in your shoulders ... you get the point.

As long as the world is, does and acts, there is time. In a thread I made earlier I asked whether God could create a rock He could not lift. I think it's somewhat appropriate for this occasion:

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Could God create a rock that he could not lift?
To approach this question it’s important to consider the properties of a rock, which can include the physical features of size, weight, density, hardness and volume. These follow the laws of logic, within our spacial temple. For example, as it moves within the time/space continuum, it ages – it may crumble away with erosion, or it may last for a substantial amount of time. It takes up a certain amount of space, where it can increase or decrease - but still it will follow our laws of logic.

If we consider God in this equation, most people see him as an ominipotent being where he is beyond the space/time continuum. He is essentially everywhere, and therefore can lift a rock as He created the universe. But if the question arises such as creating a rock that is beyond the limits of logic, we would have to imagine a rock that is so vast and timeless that rock simply “is”. Our normal assumptions of a rock – size, density, hardness, volume etc. – will then have to be discarded. We cannot lift time; we cannot lift this rock, nor measure it, weigh it, move it. If time does not exist and only this rock does, then there would be simply no time for the rock to be lifted, or set down again. These events of “lifting” or “moving” cannot occur if it is not within the time/space continuum; and therefore the question asks if God can do the impossible and lift a rock that is beyond our understanding of logic.
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Not my fault if you're surrounded by unintelligent females!

Some girls over here would kick your ass in terms of brain power.
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