Gateway Drugs..

[Chokichi]

Originally Posted by manofsparrow

You don't enjoy sadness
You probably are, but you usually don't have a lack of water.
See above
You don't enjoy headaches

People are also addicted to life.

addicted to food? are you ****ing kidding me?

i usually dread dinnertime -_-

[manofsparrow]

Originally Posted by Chokichi

addicted to food? are you ****ing kidding me?

i usually dread dinnertime -_-

That was mostly a joke post anyways

[guntakeda]

I would call weed a gaye way drug.
Ofcourse it can be a matter of opinion - But statistically speaking. It leads on to other drugs. Just because it didn't happen to you means you are in the X % who dont go on to harder drugs.
For those who it hasnt happened to. It could only be a matter of time. Doesnt matter if its been 6 months or 2 years - You may/may not move onto other drugs.

[An Amateur]

As with all statistics they can be manipulated to reprisent what you want them to reprisent to some extent. However, having said that you can't see the wind but we know its there because we can see its effects and feel it on our skin. Just because we can't see the link does not mean that it is not there, the statistics are like the wind rustling the leaves of a tree. The only difference here is that the link is more uncertain but there is plenty of evidence that can suggest that gateway drugs may exist.

It's also important to bear in mind that just because the media focus on this idea of gateway drgs does not mean that experts on the issue of drugs all agree. Indeed if you listen to the general feedback from such people they generally say that it is something that needs further looking into, but it is definetly a worry along with other factors.

My personal belief is that gateway drugs exist, that does not mean most people who try one will move onto more dangerous drugs though. I also believe that it is not simply the drugs themselves but the lifestyle of the individual as well as other factors that have a large(perhaps larger) influence when combined.

@ Chokichi

When you say that people who are suffering from a mental addiction or weak minded your really showing your own arogance and lack of experience on such a topic. It is a far more complicated mental process than you make out. Indeed a person may not realise that they are addicted to something for a long time. Many things take place in the sub-conscious and so a person is not always able to make an informed or concious decision to quit. Also in sever cases mental addictions can be so real to a person that they lead to physical effects.

[Pitbull]

this topic is dumb. 100% users tried water? WATER= NATURAL.

DRUGS=NOT NATURAL. wtf dont get this topic

[manofsparrow]

Originally Posted by Pitbull

this topic is dumb. 100% users tried water? WATER= NATURAL.

DRUGS=NOT NATURAL. wtf dont get this topic

And if the water is dirty and filled with bacteria?

[slingblader]

Originally Posted by manofsparrow

And if the water is dirty and filled with bacteria?

That makes it naturally dirty water...

[guntakeda]

Originally Posted by Pitbull

this topic is dumb. 100% users tried water? WATER= NATURAL.

DRUGS=NOT NATURAL. wtf dont get this topic

any drug thats legal in holland is natural >.> as it doesnt go through a process of purification. Its from mother green!

[An Amateur]

Originally Posted by Pitbull

this topic is dumb. 100% users tried water? WATER= NATURAL.

DRUGS=NOT NATURAL. wtf dont get this topic

Originally Posted by guntakeda

any drug thats legal in holland is natural >.> as it doesnt go through a process of purification. Its from mother green!

I think what pitbull is pointing out to you guys is that:

Water is important in keeping our bodies in there natural state. It does not induce an altered state under normal circumstances.

Drugs induce an altered or non-natural state in the body and mind.

And therefore the comparisons being drawn are unconnected. The comparisons these studies show are connected. EXAMPLE: Two substances that induce non-natural states, one may lead you to try another.

[manofsparrow]

And what about sex addicts?

[DRUSS]

Marijuana is a gateway drug, if you let it be zz

[Mr.Lucifer]

Originally Posted by Chokichi

you have the ability to stop anything at any one given time.

therefore if you feel you can't your weak minded.

don't ask me to explain this but .. think your weak minded .. your giving into a substance.. i could stop anything so long as it doesn't pose risks to my health etc..

the thing is : if your able to stop it but you can't your addicted and a weaker person because your the one who feels like their life depends on something other than the better stuff in life.

Ìf you're able to stop, you will stop if you want to. If you think you can stop, but can't, you are addicted. Addiction can happen to anyone. I know people I consider unusually strong-minded who have been or are addicted to something. Some people are more weak-minded than others, but everyone can become addicted.

Originally Posted by guntakeda

I would call weed a gaye way drug.
Ofcourse it can be a matter of opinion - But statistically speaking. It leads on to other drugs. Just because it didn't happen to you means you are in the X % who dont go on to harder drugs.
For those who it hasnt happened to. It could only be a matter of time. Doesnt matter if its been 6 months or 2 years - You may/may not move onto other drugs.

Every single heroine addict on the planet has tried eating food.

Weed is usually obtained from illegal places. They usually sell other stuff too. An everyday example:

You see a nice TV on a commercial. You think it's nice so you go to the shop. When you are there the clerk suggests another, slightly more expensive TV. It's bigger and better. You get tempted and buy that one instead. Had you bought it from somewhere where they didn't sell anything but the TV you had originally planned to buy, you would have bought that one.

Originally Posted by Pitbull

this topic is dumb. 100% users tried water? WATER= NATURAL.

DRUGS=NOT NATURAL. wtf dont get this topic

Many drugs are very natural.

Originally Posted by manofsparrow

And what about sex addicts?

Not a gateway thing. Masturbation might be a gateway to it though.

[manofsparrow]

Would meat count as an addiction?

[An Amateur]

Originally Posted by manofsparrow

Would meat count as an addiction?

No. Please stop with the stupid questions. Were talking about drug addiction. Just to make this absolutely clear, a reasonably good definition of a drug is:

A chemical compound or substance that can alter the [normal] structure and function of the body. We don't count food or water because it does not alter the natural processes of the body.