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Old 05-31-2008, 10:54 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Chokichi, you said in your first post that people might use an addictive drug such as speed, XTC or cocaine after the use of a "non-addictive" drug such as Cannabis..

The difference is, Cannabis is quite an addictive drug itself...
I've used it for over 5 years now and I basically never see myself quiting this ****.

I have used harddrugs aswell, and I must say, weed was the gateway drug, but smoking tabacco was the gateway for me to smoke weed.
It just depends to which level you want to take it yourself.
I've had my share of harddrugs and so have my friends, we came to our senses though.
I have never stopped using harddrugs, every 6months I see my occasion to use it, and I will capture that moment, cause hell son....XTC is one hell of a drug with the right music : P

People just need to be aware of the concequenses, it is in fact a gateway drug, but so is tabbaco or alchohol. You have everything in your own hands, just the use of "less unhealthy" drugs makes you less scared of the bigger drugs.

Tabbaco/Alchohol > Cannabis > XTC > Speed/Cocaine > Heroine/LSD
I've stopped before I reached the last stage, and I think alot of people should experiment in life, just to know where your own boundries are.

I have found mine, and I think alot of people that have experimented has found their own boundry.
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Old 06-01-2008, 11:31 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I come back to this thread. I still smoke Marijuana on a daily basis. I have been smoking it on a daily bassi for around 15 months now in total. And i do NOT feel the need to go onto harder drugs.

I would of thought after 15 months of at least smoking around minimum 15 spliffs a week, (thats minimum normally more) i would of felt the need to go onto harder stuff if this was a gateway drug.

I just think people and the Government need something to blame that leads people onto harder stuff, and being that Marijuana is the most wide spread and sold drug on our streets. They blame that.
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Old 06-06-2008, 09:53 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Chokichi, you said in your first post that people might use an addictive drug such as speed, XTC or cocaine after the use of a "non-addictive" drug such as Cannabis..

The difference is, Cannabis is quite an addictive drug itself...
I've used it for over 5 years now and I basically never see myself quiting this ****.

I have used harddrugs aswell, and I must say, weed was the gateway drug, but smoking tabacco was the gateway for me to smoke weed.
It just depends to which level you want to take it yourself.
I've had my share of harddrugs and so have my friends, we came to our senses though.
I have never stopped using harddrugs, every 6months I see my occasion to use it, and I will capture that moment, cause hell son....XTC is one hell of a drug with the right music : P

People just need to be aware of the concequenses, it is in fact a gateway drug, but so is tabbaco or alchohol. You have everything in your own hands, just the use of "less unhealthy" drugs makes you less scared of the bigger drugs.

Tabbaco/Alchohol > Cannabis > XTC > Speed/Cocaine > Heroine/LSD
I've stopped before I reached the last stage, and I think alot of people should experiment in life, just to know where your own boundries are.

I have found mine, and I think alot of people that have experimented has found their own boundry.
sorry to judge you but..

you have a really bad life and i feel sorry for you.

if you think that weed is addictive your just weak minded.. chemically weed isn't addictive.. it's just your mind.

like i said. i feel sorry for you.
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Old 06-06-2008, 10:16 AM   #34 (permalink)
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sorry to judge you but..

you have a really bad life and i feel sorry for you.

if you think that weed is addictive your just weak minded.. chemically weed isn't addictive.. it's just your mind.

like i said. i feel sorry for you.
err you must be kidding me right?

Too much of anything can make you an addict, just like you're addicted to gunz.

Do you really think that XTC and Speed make you physically addictive?
LOL I think you're a rookie who has no idea what he's talking about.
Perhaps you should advance to any type of drug instead of sniffing those bottles of glue every night before you go to sleep, because obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Old 06-06-2008, 09:07 PM   #35 (permalink)
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err you must be kidding me right?

Too much of anything can make you an addict, just like you're addicted to gunz.

Do you really think that XTC and Speed make you physically addictive?
LOL I think you're a rookie who has no idea what he's talking about.
Perhaps you should advance to any type of drug instead of sniffing those bottles of glue every night before you go to sleep, because obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.
ofc i have an idea what im going on about... Too much of anything can make it addictive?

ok.. over the years ive been sad quite alot am i addicted to it? - no
ive drank LOADS of water since i was born am i addicted? - no
ive ate alot of food am i addicted? - no
I've had loads of headaches am i addicted ? - no

point is that alot of something doesn't make it addictive
only the weak minded ( IMO ) get addicted .. if your physically and mentally prepared to completely give something up .. you will do it.

my auntie .. very practical woman .. used to smoke for 2 years .. was addicted, she decided she wanted children and realized if she had a child she don't want it brought up around smoke and like that ... in 5 mins of thinking she gave up completely.. never touched one since.

So i believe it is you my drug addicted friend .. who has no idea what their talking about.
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Old 06-06-2008, 09:14 PM   #36 (permalink)
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cocaine used to be part of coke cola
it was never proven

how much would a cola containing cocaine be worth?
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The only reasons i can possibly think of are:

•If a person is addicted to cannabis(marijuana), they have no self control, and(or) problems in his life and is using the herb as an escape.

•Cannabis can be a gateway drug, but it varies from user to user. some people stick to it, and never try anything else. Others have the feeling of Euphoria, and want to experiment with stronger drugs to see how that high is.


I really can't say it isn't a gateway drug because i smoke, and it has aroused my attention to other things i would have never dared try before. (heroine, cocaine/crack, shrooms, any other hallucinogens)
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Old 06-06-2008, 10:46 PM   #38 (permalink)
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it was never proven

how much would a cola containing cocaine be worth?
yes it was proven lol
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Well as a regular Cannabis smoker (for the past 8/9 months) i can say it has not lead me to any harder drugs. I do not feel the need to move onto them.
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as my friend rolled a spliff with cocaine in, so i never knew.
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my auntie .. very practical woman .. used to smoke for 2 years .. was addicted, she decided she wanted children and realized if she had a child she don't want it brought up around smoke and like that ... in 5 mins of thinking she gave up completely.. never touched one since.

So i believe it is you my drug addicted friend .. who has no idea what their talking about.
If your aunt was able to quit smoking in 5 minutes , she either A wasn't addicted or B has an abnormal amount of willpower and determination, like so much it isn't regular and you can't expect a normal person to have that much.
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The difference is, Cannabis is quite an addictive drug itself...
I've used it for over 5 years now and I basically never see myself quiting this ****.
You aren't addicted physically. In the same way you are addicted to cannabis you can be addicted to anything. Orange juice, posting on forums, playing video games etc.

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Tabbaco/Alchohol > Cannabis > XTC > Speed/Cocaine > Heroine/LSD
I've stopped before I reached the last stage, and I think alot of people should experiment in life, just to know where your own boundries are.
Drugs are different. Those who experiment and feel like trying a lot of different stuff just for fun are the ones who end up on the streets. There are a lot of people who smoke just cannabis their whole life without feeling the need to try different things.

Ecstacy is a party drug. If you are a calm person smoking weed while having a nice time in your garden on a nice day, you're most likely never going to feel the need to use ecstacy.

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I come back to this thread. I still smoke Marijuana on a daily basis. I have been smoking it on a daily bassi for around 15 months now in total. And i do NOT feel the need to go onto harder drugs.

I would of thought after 15 months of at least smoking around minimum 15 spliffs a week, (thats minimum normally more) i would of felt the need to go onto harder stuff if this was a gateway drug.

I just think people and the Government need something to blame that leads people onto harder stuff, and being that Marijuana is the most wide spread and sold drug on our streets. They blame that.
I agree. But you should smoke less. Nothing is healthy when you get too much of it.

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ofc i have an idea what im going on about... Too much of anything can make it addictive?

ok.. over the years ive been sad quite alot am i addicted to it? - no Very possible, very common.
ive drank LOADS of water since i was born am i addicted? - no I've been it. I'm very not weak-minded.
ive ate alot of food am i addicted? - no One of the biggest problems these days.
I've had loads of headaches am i addicted ? - no You didn't like it, there were no reason you would want it again.

point is that alot of something doesn't make it addictive
only the weak minded ( IMO ) get addicted .. if your physically and mentally prepared to completely give something up .. you will do it.

my auntie .. very practical woman .. used to smoke for 2 years .. was addicted, she decided she wanted children and realized if she had a child she don't want it brought up around smoke and like that ... in 5 mins of thinking she gave up completely.. never touched one since.

So i believe it is you my drug addicted friend .. who has no idea what their talking about.
Only the weak-minded gets mentally addicted? No, that's wrong. Weak-minded will easier become addicted, but you don't have to be weak-minded.

You can quit heroine on the spot too, but it isn't easy.
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Give up on the crappy examples and apply some common sense, please.

The high weed provides could obviously attract people to try something stronger.
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Give up on the crappy examples and apply some common sense, please.

The high weed provides could obviously attract people to try something stronger.
Give up on the crappy examples and apply some common sense, please.

The excitement making normal homemade porn and posting it on the internet provides could obviously attract people to try something stronger.
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Old 06-10-2008, 01:25 PM   #44 (permalink)
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You aren't addicted physically. In the same way you are addicted to cannabis you can be addicted to anything. Orange juice, posting on forums, playing video games etc.



Drugs are different. Those who experiment and feel like trying a lot of different stuff just for fun are the ones who end up on the streets. There are a lot of people who smoke just cannabis their whole life without feeling the need to try different things.

Ecstacy is a party drug. If you are a calm person smoking weed while having a nice time in your garden on a nice day, you're most likely never going to feel the need to use ecstacy.



I agree. But you should smoke less. Nothing is healthy when you get too much of it.



Only the weak-minded gets mentally addicted? No, that's wrong. Weak-minded will easier become addicted, but you don't have to be weak-minded.

You can quit heroine on the spot too, but it isn't easy.
you have the ability to stop anything at any one given time.

therefore if you feel you can't your weak minded.

don't ask me to explain this but .. think your weak minded .. your giving into a substance.. i could stop anything so long as it doesn't pose risks to my health etc..

the thing is : if your able to stop it but you can't your addicted and a weaker person because your the one who feels like their life depends on something other than the better stuff in life.
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ok.. over the years ive been sad quite alot am i addicted to it? - no
ive drank LOADS of water since i was born am i addicted? - no
ive ate alot of food am i addicted? - no
I've had loads of headaches am i addicted ? - no
You don't enjoy sadness
You probably are, but you usually don't have a lack of water.
See above
You don't enjoy headaches

People are also addicted to life.
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