Gateway Drugs..

[Fail9000]

Lol @ cocain can only be sniffed up nose

[Mr.Lucifer]

Cocaine can be sniffed, injected and smoked (crack).

I stand by my opinion, "gateway" drugs are caused by where you get it, who you do it with etc. Most people start with cannabis to experiment. Later they'll experience at other stuff. If you smoke cannabis to smoke cannabis you aren't going on to heroine as soon as you get the chance from my experience.

I experiment somewhat. I really want to try speed now.

[Chokichi]

Originally Posted by Billionz

But drugs aren't mundane like Orange Juice, you don't get any sense of high, it's not exhilarating, I wouldn't drink Orange Juice and wonder if stronger stuff will give me a better sense of ecstasy, because as far as I know Orange Juice doesn't provide that. Cannabis I'm told does though, so it may lead to other drug usage because you DO wonder that kind of thing, and maybe Cannabis becomes too mundane for you maybe you want something stronger because you lose interest in the old stuff, you want new stuff.

Maybe you don't feel that orange juice pursues you to taste other stuff, i understand where you are coming from and yeah i kinda agree orange juice was a VERY fast off the top of my head example... i understand what you are saying the high of the drug will lead on to curiosity of other drugs but do you seriously go to an indian resteraunt and try something... enjoy and have such a wonderful experience eating it you are willing to try everything that cuisine has to offer? No you don't...

Originally Posted by Fail9000

If your dumb enough to be on a drug such as cocain, then you may aswell have some weed because it isn't as bad.



It's like a dare devil on a bike jumping off the hugest ramp and then if he sees a smaller ramp after doing it, he may aswell go on it.

I think you kinda 100% missed the point of that quote by breaking it down... it wasn't a statement that 90% of drug addicts have tried weed... it was a percentage comparison to say that 100% of drug users have tried something else does that make this thing a gateway drug? But you kinda just pointed out your IQ to me so ... Don't expect replies from me from now on..

Originally Posted by Seriatim

Quoted for the fcking truth.

i could've said it better, i choose not to.

If you can't say something in a better way then don't post at all.

[Chokichi]

Originally Posted by Fail9000

Lol @ cocain can only be sniffed up nose

I used a method called "generalization" Although you are rather stupid.

[slingblader]

Originally Posted by Chokichi

Maybe you don't feel that orange juice pursues you to taste other stuff, i understand where you are coming from and yeah i kinda agree orange juice was a VERY fast off the top of my head example... i understand what you are saying the high of the drug will lead on to curiosity of other drugs but do you seriously go to an indian resteraunt and try something... enjoy and have such a wonderful experience eating it you are willing to try everything that cuisine has to offer? No you don't...

No, the point is whether you're going to try everything. I would, and nearly everyone else would, try some more of the type of food, as it's obviously something I could enjoy.

[LordShaft]

Maybe you don't feel that orange juice pursues you to taste other stuff, i understand where you are coming from and yeah i kinda agree orange juice was a VERY fast off the top of my head example... i understand what you are saying the high of the drug will lead on to curiosity of other drugs but do you seriously go to an indian resteraunt and try something... enjoy and have such a wonderful experience eating it you are willing to try everything that cuisine has to offer? No you don't...

I would if the food was awesome >.>

why the hell would u not?!

[LordShaft]

Originally Posted by slingblader

.......

Which is the idea of a gateway drug

my point exactly

[Colby]

Originally Posted by Chokichi

Maybe you don't feel that orange juice pursues you to taste other stuff, i understand where you are coming from and yeah i kinda agree orange juice was a VERY fast off the top of my head example... i understand what you are saying the high of the drug will lead on to curiosity of other drugs but do you seriously go to an indian resteraunt and try something... enjoy and have such a wonderful experience eating it you are willing to try everything that cuisine has to offer? No you don't...

Well, if I like a restaurant I will generally come back, but if I order the same cuisine every time from the restaurants menu eventually I will get tired of the same old dish and so I figure maybe I will try a new dish and if I really like that so much that I'm addicted I'll order it more and more every time..Of course, like I said, Orange Juice and Restaurant foods aren't really addicting, but drugs are, and the same mannerism can and probably will lead you to try more drugs.

[shade11]

I'm going to quote what I said in another thread:

Originally Posted by shade11

The gateway drug ideology is merely a theory. Marijuana is only considered a gateway drug because it's sold on the same market other drugs are. It's as much of a gateway drug as any other illegal substance. It's only kept as such due to the fact that it's the most widely used illegal drug.

Studies have shown that when marijuana becomes illegal, the amount of users who do more hardcore drugs drops significantly.

[Fail9000]

Originally Posted by Chokichi

I think you kinda 100% missed the point of that quote by breaking it down... it wasn't a statement that 90% of drug addicts have tried weed... it was a percentage comparison to say that 100% of drug users have tried something else does that make this thing a gateway drug? But you kinda just pointed out your IQ to me so ... Don't expect replies from me from now on..

Yawn, look at this retard trying to act big and pass on his retardness and insults hes getting onto me just because i have lower posts/rep, seriously ever since i made this alt everyone just ego's.


Who's the one thinking he can make a serious thread about comparing juice to drugs anyway? seriously go be a retard more.

And i think you 100% missed the point i was trying to say, atleast some people got what i meant, but now you just showed how retarded you was, good for you.

You don't deserve the full explanation of what i was saying, because your too dumb enough to understand what i was saying when i dumbed it down, get out of serious discussion.

Originally Posted by Chokichi

I used a method called "generalization" Although you are rather stupid.

Try to cover up your retarded self more?

Originally Posted by Chokichi

Don't expect replies from me from now on..

Good, and nice post after you said that, real smooth. If your going to say something like that then it is best to edit the post you said that in.

[Socks]

Originally Posted by LordShaft

Actually, chemically it isn't addictive, but yes if the person suffers from an ADDICTIVE PERSONALITY it is addictive.

I concur.

Originally Posted by LordShaft

Orange juice has Vitamin C
Cannabis has THC

I lol'd.

Originally Posted by LordShaft

Cannabis does relax you, but increases your heart rate

I rest my case.

[Assimilate]

As I entered highschool a few friends and I were introduced to marijuana we called it weed or dope. I know my friends were pretty hesitant to begin with but I knew that I would eventually try it so I might as well do it now, besides, I was at a pretty safe place, lots of people around and what not. So I took 2 hits, nothing much, and didn't get much out of it, my senses were just slightly tingly.

Much time passed and I hadn't used it because this was just to "try it" so its still grade 9 and I go to a friends house and we go to another friends house nearby where there are a few people sitting out back having a beer and smoking some bong. It was pretty good, this time I got extremely high, didn't know what was going on, everything was hilarious, I accidentally hit the bong from the bowl and swallowed some ash, it burned, but it was funny, I couldn't stop coughing and a friend gave me a beer to drink, which I took a drink of and immediately spit back out because it was too funny to comprehend. I fell back into my chair and smoked a cigarette through my nose, which gives you an insane head buzz for about 10 seconds. Everything turned to static I could see the smoke inside of my brain for a moment.

[Assimilate]

Later on, one of my best friends began smoking dope more frequently as well, I don't know his story but anyways. A few of us would go over to his house (he lives in a rural town) and sneak out around 9 or 10 to an old barn used for storage on his property and light up every few weekends, as time progressed this became more frequent. As we moved through high school it seemed to be less worry, we started just going outside, then going down to the basement after his parents went to sleep to get high. Eventually in grade 10 his parents just accepted that this is what we did. In grade 11, we started just smoking weed in his room and blowing the smoke out the window with the door closed. And now its just do whatever door open windows closed. In grade 11 a bunch of the people I used to hang out with including my friend mentioned (I moved away) decided to try salvia one weekend about 5 of them did. (salvia) is a plant that gets you high for 15 minutes and is perfectly legal in Canada. I wasn't around for this, and I'm pretty glad. Later on in grade 11 they all ate some psylocybin mushrooms and tripped out for a while (I didn't join)

[Assimilate]

And later this summer I know my buddy has plans and quite a few more of my friends in my new town are going to try mushrooms a few more times. I don't know what else will come up probably ecstacy at the least. I know in grade 9 we all agreed that we would never do any drugs whatsoever except for dope, I haven't (well I'm not sure if a batch I got was laced with coke pretty sure not though took 2 hits and was high as #@!$ maybe it was just royal ****) but all of my friends have tried mushrooms and everything else organic, they rationalize it by saying its not chemical its all natural and **** and I can partly understand but cyanide is a naturally occurring substance and so is opium (a derivative of the poppy plant refined to make heroin). One is lethal in under a milligram dose, and the other is the ingredient for one of the hardest and most addictive drugs you can get.

Just thought I would give my personal experience. Its really not an individual spontaneous thing that makes you want to try other drugs. Its the fact that you put yourself in the situations where experimentation can arise. What I mean is that, my friend knew shrooms and other "softcore" drugs are still very dangerous he wouldn't of tried them before he was desensitized to it all. But after 3 years of just smoking weed and drinking beers his perception of the other drugs became less scary, less taboo which allowed him to further experiment. And when you move up in the drug chain it introduces you to new and more people without self-control which rubs off onto you and you do more and more. Anyways....


Yours truly,

Onslaught


(PS) My friend got accepted into college and I'm not saying he is a total junkie, just the way that marijuana opened up new paths to other drugs.

[GunT3ch]

The user's personality tells you the most about what their habbits will be like with drugs. I don't think gate way drugs have anything to do with it.

The whole gate way drug speculation is mere coincidence in my oppinion, i think if someone who smokes weed first and then moves onto harder drugs isn't experiencing gateway drugs, they were always willing to try a hard drug, they were looking for the danger and excitement of doing something shunned and dangerous.