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Old 04-09-2008, 09:02 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 04-09-2008, 10:49 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Really? So if you kill someone in self defense, it is in no way different than slowly killing another man to the point where he's begging for death and you deny him?

Under that logic, soldiers are no better than Hitler.
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:05 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Old 04-10-2008, 12:05 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:37 PM   #20 (permalink)
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saw a documentary on this on national GEO down south east LA and near the boarder those gangs are harsh
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Old 04-27-2008, 03:57 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Their not harsh.. they dont know what it's like to kill someone slowly and look into their eyes as they die. I for one am not happy about this but, i almost killed my dad. I used to think my dad was a bad person. When he got drunk one time he went to get his gun to shoot my family. I went into the kitched and got a really big dagger. Back then i hated him so much i didn't care if he died. I went to hit him but then i remembered that this is not the right thing. For once i had stopped my instinct and saved a great deal of bloodshed. I am not happy for my actions of even thinking to kill him, but yea.

This still doesn't change the fact that this lunatics are out on the street killing others for fun. They get mad at the rest of people because they have normal jobs and they dont. So they decide to join a gang and kill them. How monstrous can you be?

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Old 05-01-2008, 12:12 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I haven't heard of anyone from the UK being in this gang.

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Old 05-01-2008, 04:44 PM   #23 (permalink)
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This gang is getting worse, recruiting younger and younger members (up to the age of 6)
because they find kids who run away from home and threaten them into joining.
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They are getting more structural, organized, putting fear into enemy gangs, that they are forced out of towns
no gang is organized outside of drug trafficking, and that's still a mess.
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Many police, FBI, and the navy, hasn't really done anything about it so far
the police isn't responsible for gang activity, they're job is to hold the peace. the FBI works undercover, so you wouldn't know if they're doing anything or not. why would the Navy waste their time with this kiddie sht?
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bloodz and cripz are fake as hell, why would you even mention them?
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They slaughter you for no reason
so it isn't a gang, it's a klan?
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Old 05-01-2008, 04:50 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Ross Kemp has a few documentries on these gangs.

if you go to tv links you shud check them out
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Old 05-01-2008, 06:30 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Ross Kemp has a few documentries on these gangs.

if you go to tv links you shud check them out
Oh ya i saw one of them on channel 4 or maybe 5 i can't remember.
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Old 05-06-2008, 04:10 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:46 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I can tell you that most people in it aren'T so bad. Its true they can be dangerous, and that they follow orders(So don't get onto the bad side of them) But most of the time, they aren't so bad.

Don't judge a book by its cover.
First I'd like to say, you dont judge a book by its cover, but you can generally get a good idea of the book by its title. Metaphor for something? Indeed it is.

Regardless of the gang sympathizing shows you may have watched, letting your guard down with a gang member is NOT the way to go about it. Yes you are right, I bet a sht load of them have never even killed before, but when you let your guard down around the wrong member you dont get another chance to reconsider. Sorry but after loosing a relative and ALMOST loosing my own dad to gang members (my dad still has well over 20+ small uzi bullets still left in his left arm and literally 3 inches from his heart) I aint got no sympathy for any of them. You are so dam naiive to give the "dont judge a ook by its cover" speach, cuz if you open a book decorated with blood stains, dismembered eyes, and creepy text but expect to find a child's fairy tail book then you definitely got a reality call commin your way.

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Well, think of this, there are different levels of killing.
There are no different levels of killing there are imply different motives. The motive is what we judge by, not the method so get that right

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Here, you show the act of randomly killing someone with a gun, at long range, and probably night, meaning they probably never saw the person's face and never will. Its not as bad as someone who would take a knife and starts chopping people up, someone taking pleasure in torturing someone else.
It makes no difference at all, if both killings were done deliberately then who gives a flying fwck if it the person was sniped or chopped up. A knife is easier to obtain, just as effective, less hassle. A gun requires just as much killer instinct as a knife with less work and less mess. If you have such a preference then I will be sure to inform any hired killer targetting you that you would prefer death by gun rather than knife if it makes that much of a difference to you.

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There are different levels of madness, and franctly, its not so hard to come out of a car and shoot randomly at someone, at least not as hard as cutting them into pieces
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Yes chopping someone to pieces takes more physical strength than pulling a trigger, no other difference. If the motive is the same, and the results are the same, the crime is the same.

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They aren't as blood thirsty as you might think them, or see them, and I don't think ANY gang would require more then a random killing as part of an innitiation.
Probably true on the initiation part, only half true on the bloodthirsty part. Not ALL of them are as blood thirsty would be more accurate.

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Really, all you have to do is point and click, just like in video games. Since no one will ever know you did it, whats so bad in it for you in the end.
Only someone with no conscience can say this, and only someone with the maturity of a 13 year old would say cold blooded killing with a gun is as easy as it is in a video game. If someone simply pulls a trigger to kill you, whats so bad about it anyways? Oh wait, the fact that an innocent life was taken maybe?

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Hell, its 500 times less bad then the small pitty fights kings had back 400+ years ago.
Ya and this is totally relavent because we as just as uncivilized as they were right?

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But don'T forget, you'Re talking to a person who'se dream would be to travel around the world with a sword straped to her belt and a bunch of friends to accompany her.
You really need to play less MMORPGs, its definitely effecting you in a negative way. I can see that your little "parties" in your MMOs, makes you feel gang life is similar. Well ill tell you this, there is no equal kill drop distribution, there is no medic to ressurect you when you die, and there are no spawn point, and you loose a hell of alot more than just experience points if you die so how about taking life a little more seriously than just a game ok?

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Old 05-07-2008, 04:20 AM   #28 (permalink)
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But personally, I would never join a gang, even if I had no choice.
i'm sorry, you lost me on this sentence.

if you had no choice, that circumvents you choosing not to join a gang. try again.
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Old 05-07-2008, 04:52 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I remember seeing something on t.v and they where in prison, being told to kill certain people so they could join the klan / gang...They just walked up to people with a knife and stabbed them repetitively in the neck. I could be wrong it could be a different gang, but i remember those evil people : (!
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Old 06-02-2008, 10:37 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Lol ms-13. i single handely 10-0'd all of them
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