Homosexuality

[Vintageplayground]

i think your taking a this a little to hear dude
i really did not mean to offend anybody.

so once again sorry if i have.
but i guess through hearing OPINIONS from
people like you

maybe people like me will come to understand a little more

[Jon88]

It is their choice, and while it may offend you, they have just as much right to display their affection for eachother as you do with someone you love. Unless of course you can sway the majority to go with your view, and outlaw it all together.

[shintenzu]

Originally Posted by xenomorph

Shintenzu, "It's against nature" is the worst argument for anything. The very mechanism that we humans run within our societies is entirely "unnatural". We have a monopoly on the entire planet. Is that natural? Is that something nature wanted?

The very ability to produce the mechanisms that we human's run in our society is very natural, it is the natural human tendancy to advance, invent, and etc. I will agree alot of the invention conflict with nature, especially ones that result in polution and such, but notice we try to do something about this conflict. It is also very natural for the dominant species to be given the position of dominance over the other species. The lions are usually the most dominat species in the wild, so they command the most area, they can roam were they need go and the other animals must either leave or chance their luck. That is a very natural concept. However when you try to fit a square in a circular hole, you may be able to Jam it in eventually, but you still get that feeling that something is a bit off.

I personally don't like chocolate ice cream. I think it's gross, and looks like you're digging into a bowl of ****. Does that make it wrong? Should I discriminate against people who like chocolate ice cream because I don't like it? No. It has no significant impact on my life, and having chocolate ice cream available pleases those who like it.

Your tastebuds were designed to have different taste preferences, your sexual organs were not. Yet despite your different orientations in taste, when you eat something that the human is not supposed to consume then something is off. You may have the "natural preference" to eating cow sht and drinking dog piss, but that definitely does not mean people are gonna accept it simply because its your "preference", and whether you consider that descrimination or not is your buissiness.

[Vintageplayground]

that was a beautiful comment shin

very educating

+Rep

[manofsparrow]

no opinion is wrong.

But not all opinions are equal.
An opinion supported by facts is different from an opinion not supported by facts.

Your tastebuds were designed to have different taste preferences, your sexual organs were not.

Everything you feel goes back to the brain.

Yet despite your different orientations in taste, when you eat something that the human is not supposed to consume then something is off.

It seems homosexual people don't feel that way about their sexual orientation.

You may have the "natural preference" to eating cow sht and drinking dog piss,

No one has that.
And even if someone did, it would have some very negative effects on that person.

but that definitely does not mean people are gonna accept it simply because its your "preference", and whether you consider that descrimination or not is your buissiness.

Too bad that still doesn't prove that being homosexual is unnatural.
And why does it even matter if it's unnatural?

[Sango]

there is absolutely nothing wrong with someone choosing to be gay.


that doesnt stop me from making fun of gays though.

[waterbuster]

As long as they keep it to themselves, I have no problem with it.

[Yvgeniy]

I don't have a problem with homosexuals in the least. There are straight people and there are gay people. That's just the reality. I don't see why they should have any less rights than straight people. For instance, I don't see why you advocate that they only show signs of affection behind closed doors. How would you feel if you couldn't be intimate with your girlfriend/boyfriend in public? Doesn't that violate your basic rights? Hell, a lot of people are uncomfortable about public displays of affection period, so I don't see why solely on that reason this practice should be banned. If you're going to restrict gays from displaying this, then you must also restrict straight people from displaying it.

Gay people deal with enough **** as it is, so it would certainly be nice if people gave them some room and let them live their life in peace. Homophobes simply piss me off, to be frank. "Oh no, that's so gay. Eww... that's just sick and disgusting. These people should die." People like that need to grow up. Maybe you're not into men if you're a man, or a women if you're a woman, but that doesn't mean that you should freak out as though you've seen a ghost, or advocate violence towards it. People like that are simply ignorant.

[shintenzu]

Originally Posted by Yvgeniy

I don't have a problem with homosexuals in the least. There are straight people and there are gay people. That's just the reality. I don't see why they should have any less rights than straight people. For instance, I don't see why you advocate that they only show signs of affection behind closed doors. How would you feel if you couldn't be intimate with your girlfriend/boyfriend in public? Doesn't that violate your basic rights? Hell, a lot of people are uncomfortable about public displays of affection period, so I don't see why solely on that reason this practice should be banned. If you're going to restrict gays from displaying this, then you must also restrict straight people from displaying it.

Gay people deal with enough **** as it is, so it would certainly be nice if people gave them some room and let them live their life in peace. Homophobes simply piss me off, to be frank. "Oh no, that's so gay. Eww... that's just sick and disgusting. These people should die." People like that need to grow up. Maybe you're not into men if you're a man, or a women if you're a woman, but that doesn't mean that you should freak out as though you've seen a ghost, or advocate violence towards it. People like that are simply ignorant.

Its their view of homosexuality, not their veiw of gays. I personally have nothing against gays, in fact one of my closer friend in college is gay and very open and unashmed about it. He is also Christian, and when the topic of his homosexuality first came up (only me and him were talking) I told him my views of homosexuality but I told him despite your orientation i will treat you no differently than anyone else. Which also means I'll make fun of him just as much as I would with anyone else and hes cool with that... and his little fruity dances of joy gives me the perfect opportunity to give him a hard time but its all in good fun.

[Vintageplayground]

So after hearing your opinions

and most of you supported

id like to know if saying things liek


THATS GAY
YOUR GAY
FAG
QUEER


if name calling like that should be acceptable,
or is it simply to offense to those
of the gay community

[shintenzu]

Thats gay, i will continue to say
Your gay I will continue to say

Fag I probably wont use to refer to a homosexual, but i will to refer to someone i dislike
queer i will only use in its other definition

[Vintageplayground]

anyone else wnat to share their opinion?!

[Yvgeniy]

Originally Posted by shintenzu

Its their view of homosexuality, not their veiw of gays. I personally have nothing against gays, in fact one of my closer friend in college is gay and very open and unashmed about it. He is also Christian, and when the topic of his homosexuality first came up (only me and him were talking) I told him my views of homosexuality but I told him despite your orientation i will treat you no differently than anyone else. Which also means I'll make fun of him just as much as I would with anyone else and hes cool with that... and his little fruity dances of joy gives me the perfect opportunity to give him a hard time but its all in good fun.

Well, I hold the same view of homosexuality. I understand that Christianity is against homosexuals... which puts your friend in a very contradictory position, but my personal views remain the same.

[xenomorph]

Originally Posted by shintenzu

The very ability to produce the mechanisms that we human's run in our society is very natural, it is the natural human tendancy to advance, invent, and etc. I will agree alot of the invention conflict with nature, especially ones that result in polution and such, but notice we try to do something about this conflict. It is also very natural for the dominant species to be given the position of dominance over the other species. The lions are usually the most dominat species in the wild, so they command the most area, they can roam were they need go and the other animals must either leave or chance their luck. That is a very natural concept. However when you try to fit a square in a circular hole, you may be able to Jam it in eventually, but you still get that feeling that something is a bit off.


Your tastebuds were designed to have different taste preferences, your sexual organs were not. Yet despite your different orientations in taste, when you eat something that the human is not supposed to consume then something is off. You may have the "natural preference" to eating cow sht and drinking dog piss, but that definitely does not mean people are gonna accept it simply because its your "preference", and whether you consider that descrimination or not is your buissiness.

You know there are homosexual variations within other gregarious animals as well?

I'd also like to see your rationale for why natural = right.

A dick fits into an ass. It does. I'm assuming that's what you meant by jamming a square in a circular hole.

No, sexual organs don't have preferences, the individual does. Whether or not they were born that way, I honestly don't know, but It shouldn't matter. It's not at all harmful to society, and it pleasures those who share in it. And if you really are gonna hate on people who like eating ****... I feel bad for you. Those who can't accept the fact there are people different than them are truly an obstacle to progress. Grow up, please.

It is discrimination by definition.

It is much more complex than pollution. We can kill and exterminate any animal if we pleased. This kind of monopoly is found nowhere else in nature. A lion can't annihilate an entire ecosystem. We humans go against the fundamental relationship between organism and nature, that is, we force our environment to adapt to ourselves as opposed to adapting ourselves to the environment.

[Yvgeniy]

Originally Posted by xenomorph

It is much more complex than pollution. We can kill and exterminate any animal if we pleased. This kind of monopoly is found nowhere else in nature. A lion can't annihilate an entire ecosystem. We humans go against the fundamental relationship between organism and nature, that is, we force our environment to adapt to ourselves as opposed to adapting ourselves to the environment.

See, that's what most people would like to believe. The truth of the matter is that we're not in control of anything. Sure, we could annihilate all of the animals if we wanted to, but what would that do? That would eliminate all sources of food for us. The ecosystem would be disrupted and all the plants, and reall every living being would die off. Our planet would turn into something that might look like the Moon, without any life, just bare earth. This would obviously lead to our own extinction. We're also not necessarily at the top of the food chain. Micro organisms and viruses still pose problems for us in terms of sicknesses and diseases. Catastrophes is also something we have little to no control over. It's really not different from other animals at all, for us. We're the most powerful animal, I'll give you that, but in actuality we don't really control anything. We just adapt ourselves to our environment through technology, which makes it seem like we're controlling all these things.

Anyway, aside from that I completely agree with all of your other points pertaining to differences. Good insight.