[Gunz Trailer Contest] D4rkb8n8na 2.0

[d4rkb8n8na]

Originally Posted by [__V__]

read the whole sentence. i mean the fact that most of the gunz movies are all the same, like in music, style - but people forget that they dont have to make a movie if they cant show anything new.

That's what I was thinking but I didn't get the war reference >.>

I do agree that there aren't any "new" things done with gunz movies

BTW how would you make a gunz trailer meant to advertise gunz so much more creative than what has already been done?

[Paul]

Originally Posted by [__V__]

well if you say yourself that you would have done something along the lines, how can you say you actually DESERVE the creativity you could USE to make the trailer or whatever a little more interesting. and anyone who's doing videos for contests should be shot, really, i mean whats the point in gathering dozens of videos which are all the same and prize those who are the "best"? whats next, ijji recruiting child-soldiers for their upcoming war with... uhm some african war country.

Well a person can use a little of their creativity in a trailer, yeah. Take Darkbanana's trailer for instance(might as well, since we're in his thread). The beginning and ending especially were very creative, but in the end it was pretty much just a different version of everyone elses trailer.

I think you're forgetting the aspect of who edited their video best though. The most seamless of all the videos was Rose's, which also has a creative edge to it here and there. And if you compare it to, say, one of the lower-end videos(I don't even have an example because I don't care enough to remember them), you'll see there's a pretty big difference in quality. Enough to make a contest over it.

Last though, why NOT compete in a competition like this? The LCD moniter can go for upwards of 300 bucks easy, and then there's 50 dollars worth of G coins. 350 bucks for let's say 10 hours total of editing and filming, and that's $35 an hour. You also get to say that you created a piece of media for a real company(others won't know how ****ty ijji actually is).

[[__V__]]

Originally Posted by d4rkb8n8na

BTW how would you make a gunz trailer meant to advertise gunz so much more creative than what has already been done?

the question would actually be "does this game actually need a new trailer?" cause you know, trailer's showing the game have already been done, so what's the point? people say gunz as a game is improving, at least through the company representing it, there are new items every day, new tournies, new events, quest-stuff and so on - yeah but does that actually change anything about gunz as a game and the reason why we play it? ahhhh you can tell me your opinion about it, but i dont think that would change the truth, cause it just doesnt. we all know this game is old and we all know why we play or played this game or why people will play this game once getting boners from the trailers which are already there in plenty of numbers.

i dont think many or anyone at all would ever understand this since its actually a problem with a community which kills itself, where "I WILL NEVER PLAY THIS GAME AGAIN"-topics are on the top and very very few find anything really cool about it, and yet the people who leave return cause they cant quit just to quit yet again ... and again and again, and that frustrates a whole community - but then we got valves such as in form of fanart, a good thing to have a community to, in this section we create fan videos for this game, as i mentioned before you might be able to imagine now why i think new trailers are totally stupid and unnecessary, so i toss a few new question:
what is there to do here? what kind of movie could i actually make? what would be really really cool cause no one saw things like that around here recently?
eh yeah kinda like that, thing is - people dont weigh out their options and possibilities, so they've seen 10 or 20 frag videos which all look the same and well poisoned by ijji's deperate measures of creating something they create yet another copy of that which already exists and lives off that.
but think about, when did a frag video IMPRESS you the last time? or rather when did you feel like WOAH NOW THAT WAS FULL THROTTLE IN THE FACE - cause once again i ask what is there left to do than breaking the limits we've already reached years ago?

still, people and videos around here will remain BENEATH the limits cause they will spread their upcoming copies until this whole board dies and gets forgotten as a massproduction of pure shit.

edit~

by paul
You also get to say that you created a piece of media for a real company(others won't know how ****ty ijji actually is).

uhm yeah of course i am infact aware of what there is that LURKS the weak, yet no one is there in the head to tell you what it is really worth, what it is made for and why someone's getting it, what is spread with that and where does the road finally go with the fact of it.
eh yeah what i'm trying to say is, fock those nazis, when i make a video, i maek it for myself because i wanna express (or not... you get the point) not because i want something in material, because that shouldnt be the coal the free-videomaking should run on. and i will never accept those who make videos to gain OBJECTS OF WORTH when it is the worst kind of videos that is required by that company known as ijji.

[Paul]

Originally Posted by [__V__]

the question would actually be "does this game actually need a new trailer?" cause you know, trailer's showing the game have already been done, so what's the point? people say gunz as a game is improving, at least through the company representing it, there are new items every day, new tournies, new events, quest-stuff and so on - yeah but does that actually change anything about gunz as a game and the reason why we play it? ahhhh you can tell me your opinion about it, but i dont think that would change the truth, cause it just doesnt. we all know this game is old and we all know why we play or played this game or why people will play this game once getting boners from the trailers which are already there in plenty of numbers.

i dont think many or anyone at all would ever understand this since its actually a problem with a community which kills itself, where "I WILL NEVER PLAY THIS GAME AGAIN"-topics are on the top and very very few find anything really cool about it, and yet the people who leave return cause they cant quit just to quit yet again ... and again and again, and that frustrates a whole community - but then we got valves such as in form of fanart, a good thing to have a community to, in this section we create fan videos for this game, as i mentioned before you might be able to imagine now why i think new trailers are totally stupid and unnecessary, so i toss a few new question:
what is there to do here? what kind of movie could i actually make? what would be really really cool cause no one saw things like that around here recently?
eh yeah kinda like that, thing is - people dont weigh out their options and possibilities, so they've seen 10 or 20 frag videos which all look the same and well poisoned by ijji's deperate measures of creating something they create yet another copy of that which already exists and lives off that.
but think about, when did a frag video IMPRESS you the last time? or rather when did you feel like WOAH NOW THAT WAS FULL THROTTLE IN THE FACE - cause once again i ask what is there left to do than breaking the limits we've already reached years ago?

still, people and videos around here will remain BENEATH the limits cause they will spread their upcoming copies until this whole board dies and gets forgotten as a massproduction of pure shit.

edit~


uhm yeah of course i am infact aware of what there is that LURKS the weak, yet no one is there in the head to tell you what it is really worth, what it is made for and why someone's getting it, what is spread with that and where does the road finally go with the fact of it.
eh yeah what i'm trying to say is, fock those nazis, when i make a video, i maek it for myself because i wanna express (or not... you get the point) not because i want something in material, because that shouldnt be the coal the free-videomaking should run on. and i will never accept those who make videos to gain OBJECTS OF WORTH when it is the worst kind of videos that is required by that company known as ijji.

Agreed that "whoa" videos are less abundant these days. I've had something lingering up my sleeve for a looooonnnng time now, maybe one of these days I'll finally get to spit it out.

And I understand about wanting to make videos as art only, but I'm just saying if you want an explanation, there it is. It's in my opinion that it would be worth taking a break from raw creativity for a prize such as that. After all, I don't need to necessarily pride myself in that production, win or lose.

Edit: Personally, I was only interested in the contest at first so that I could slap the SAK Studios logo on it somewhere. I just never got "in the zone" to be able to create a trailer.

[[__V__]]

Originally Posted by Paul

Agreed that "whoa" videos are less abundant these days. I've had something lingering up my sleeve for a looooonnnng time now, maybe one of these days I'll finally get to spit it out.

And I understand about wanting to make videos as art only, but I'm just saying if you want an explanation, there it is. It's in my opinion that it would be worth taking a break from raw creativity for a prize such as that. After all, I don't need to necessarily pride myself in that production, win or lose.

oh well it's just one side of the coin anyway. i'm pretty sure that good videos could actually deserve a contest if there would be plenty of different videos around instead of plenty of shit, but you know, most people are idiots, blended by the promises and prizes that are there to take. they've created this big mess known as gunzfactor fan video section... okay, maybe thats not true, cause there are cool videos made by community members, but there's so much more crap that it's pretty difficult to see through it.

its not about how this or any contest develops, cause i'm sure those videos in line never really deserved any hype.

Edit: Personally, I was only interested in the contest at first so that I could slap the SAK Studios logo on it somewhere. I just never got "in the zone" to be able to create a trailer.

oh well you guys surely have the coolest bannerthing or whatever.

[d4rkb8n8na]

Originally Posted by [__V__]

the question would actually be...

...company known as ijji.

-Gunz doesn't need a new trailer, but why not make one with $350 for the first prize?

-Is it possible to go beyond limits with gunz movies?

-Gunz fan movies are rarely made for material things, 95% of the fan movies weren't made for gcoins or lcd screens.

-People make videos partly for money and partly to express themselves I think. I only entered this contest because it was quick, had a prize, and I've never put any videos on gzf.

[[__V__]]

Originally Posted by d4rkb8n8na

-Gunz doesn't need a new trailer, but why not make one with $350 for the first prize?

just to create yet another piece of crap? yeah okay one asshole gets a cool shiny item of worth, but what does it do to the community? well, for me as part of it, it bores the fock out of me and i wish everyone thousand horrible deaths who continues creating CLONES. so where is the light here, buddy.

-Is it possible to go beyond limits with gunz movies?

if not, why would anyone have ever started created anything in this direction? oh well, of course i am a fool to say that, but where is the real action.

-Gunz fan movies are rarely made for material things, 95% of the fan movies weren't made for gcoins or lcd screens.

you're a hypocrite to say that, followed by this
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-People make videos partly for money and partly to express themselves I think. I only entered this contest because it was quick, had a prize, and I've never put any videos on gzf.

anyway. you can call it material things, of course and you actually can mean what you say, but there's more material things than you might think of right now. what do the most people gain for their videos? eboners and comments en masse? is that what it is worth for? attention? oh god please, if you reall answer this question in your head with the answer i expect you to have please die instantly.

i still think your movie was kinda cool (we are community after all, right), might be a coincidence in my theory, cause everything is possible, but youre a horrible person and you have the worst reasons.

[Duomo]

Not bad not bad

[cup]

Unfortunately a Trailer Contest like this doesn't leave room for much creativity else I might have thought about making a FunZin' III. The first and second movie contests had a bunch of entertaining videos with different styles (i.e., Frag, Humor, "Drama", etc.)

The rewards that ijji give out provide people with the incentive and motivation to start making GunZ videos that otherwise they wouldn't even consider doing. I see that as a good thing. You'll have to sort through all the boring stuff, but you'll come across some that you really just enjoy watching. I remember back in the day I rarely visited the Fan Movie section, but with these movie contests, I've been visiting this section regularly to see if any good stuff has popped up.

As of late though, the whole Paremco business has been irritating me and making this section seem as pathetic as those ego wars on the rest of the boards.

I've been hoping some people would follow the FunZin' type movies and improve upon the concept with new ideas, but nothing yet.

[d4rkb8n8na]

Originally Posted by [__V__]

just to create yet another piece of crap? yeah okay one asshole gets a cool shiny item of worth, but what does it do to the community? well, for me as part of it, it bores the fock out of me and i wish everyone thousand horrible deaths who continues creating CLONES. so where is the light here, buddy.

That's why you're not entering lol Why should I care about what happens to the community O.o? And If you can create crap and get $350 for 5 hours of work why not do it?

Originally Posted by [__V__]

if not, why would anyone have ever started created anything in this direction? oh well, of course i am a fool to say that, but where is the real action.

Until someone finds out how to "break these limits" you speak of it'll be the same videos remade over and over again.

Originally Posted by [__V__]

you're a hypocrite to say that, followed by this
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If you say attention as a "material thing" then I would be a hypocrite, so I will reiterate myself, Most gunz movies in this section were not made for prizes of an Ijji Contest.

Originally Posted by [__V__]

anyway. you can call it material things, of course and you actually can mean what you say, but there's more material things than you might think of right now. what do the most people gain for their videos? eboners and comments en masse? is that what it is worth for? attention? oh god please, if you reall answer this question in your head with the answer i expect you to have please die instantly.

Hmm I wasn't really thinking of comments etc as material things.
What do most people gain for their videos? Knowledge mostly, -5 hours, a way to express their creativity, and of course some attention.

I really don't get what your point is except that you want everyone in the gunz movie section to die horrible deaths for making machinima for fun. I didn't make this trailer mainly because of the prize, I made it because I find fun in making machinima and I haven't for a long time, but the contest was just an extra little pull to get me to reinstall gunz and make a movie.

Originally Posted by [__V__]

i still think your movie was kinda cool (we are community after all, right), might be a coincidence in my theory, cause everything is possible, but youre a horrible person and you have the worst reasons.

Thank you for your opinions

[learntoread]

so much movie flamers these days

and nice movie dark

[Timed]

Originally Posted by [Aplus]Minus

By far the best trailer.

i agree

[[__V__]]

Originally Posted by d4rkb8n8na

That's why you're not entering lol Why should I care about what happens to the community O.o?

if you do not want to be part of the community, get off this forum and present your stuff in the ijji forums.

And If you can create crap and get $350 for 5 hours of work why not do it?

true, but once again youre only seeing one side of the coin. of course its cool to gain the prize for no-work - but everyone thinks like that, so the result is dozens of shtty videos melting together into one giant turd which used to be the community around here.

Until someone finds out how to "break these limits" you speak of it'll be the same videos remade over and over again.

excuse me? youre not gonna do something new by exactly doing your work how it was done a hundred times before, are you?

If you say attention as a "material thing" then I would be a hypocrite, so I will reiterate myself, Most gunz movies in this section were not made for prizes of an Ijji Contest.

oh well, if that would be true then there's a lot of [CONTEST]-videos around for no reason. wtf mate.

Hmm I wasn't really thinking of comments etc as material things.
What do most people gain for their videos? Knowledge mostly, -5 hours, a way to express their creativity, and of course some attention.

knowledge? like what? using a program and tossing some clips together for a little spleeny video? well, surely a talent.
and expressing creativity? with yet another fragvideo with billy talent music? you kidding.
so whats left is the attention, eboners, edramas and all over that youtube-non-language. yeah thats worth it for mosta people. what a great community.

I really don't get what your point is except that you want everyone in the gunz movie section to die horrible deaths for making machinima for fun.

oh well, i just like hiding insults in walls-o-text.

I didn't make this trailer mainly because of the prize, I made it because I find fun in making machinima and I haven't for a long time, but the contest was just an extra little pull to get me to reinstall gunz and make a movie.

but you would have never made anything if there wouldnt be any prize, you said so yourself. now go fock some mtv.

[d4rkb8n8na]

Originally Posted by [__V__]

true, but once again youre only seeing one side of the coin. of course its cool to gain the prize for no-work - but everyone thinks like that, so the result is dozens of shtty videos melting together into one giant turd which used to be the community around here.

So O.o?

Originally Posted by [__V__]

excuse me? youre not gonna do something new by exactly doing your work how it was done a hundred times before, are you?

Ok so you're asking everyone to stop making movies until they find something new? And you said you wanted to help the gunz movie making community? Hipocrite?

Originally Posted by [__V__]

oh well, if that would be true then there's a lot of [CONTEST]-videos around for no reason. wtf mate.

Lol what?

Originally Posted by [__V__]

knowledge? like what? using a program and tossing some clips together for a little spleeny video? well, surely a talent.
and expressing creativity? with yet another fragvideo with billy talent music? you kidding.
so whats left is the attention, eboners, edramas and all over that youtube-non-language. yeah thats worth it for mosta people. what a great community.

Hmm a hobby in gunz machinima isn't that bad.
Many people make machinima as a creative outlet.
I guess it might be worth it to some people, and who ever said this was a great community lol, the gunz community sucks.

Also, some people make movies because they want to see their own movie. I remember I would make short videos just to watch em and show friends.

Originally Posted by [__V__]

but you would have never made anything if there wouldnt be any prize, you said so yourself. now go fock some mtv.

Yea they drew people in with a prize so that new people might find a new talent in movie making. The prize is just an incentive to get them to start and later resulting in better movies from them. Ijji's goal is to get new people playing the game, it worked on me.

[[__V__]]

Originally Posted by d4rkb8n8na

So O.o?

well, thats whats wrong. do i have to state the obvious?

Ok so you're asking everyone to stop making movies until they find something new?

yes, you could say it like that.

And you said you wanted to help the gunz movie making community?

where did i say that? i'm here to point fingers at the nazis. not that i have any solutions for anything.

Lol what?

dont you understand anything. ~_~

Hmm a hobby in gunz machinima isn't that bad.
Many people make machinima as a creative outlet.
I guess it might be worth it to some people, and who ever said this was a great community lol, the gunz community sucks.

Also, some people make movies because they want to see their own movie. I remember I would make short videos just to watch em and show friends.

its worth too much for them because its worth nothing, even for me who did some videos, but especially for the kind of people like you, and more especially for the kinda of people like... uhm i dunno, parameco or what his name was.

Yea they drew people in with a prize so that new people might find a new talent in movie making. The prize is just an incentive to get them to start and later resulting in better movies from them. Ijji's goal is to get new people playing the game, it worked on me.

more like getting new people into a pile of which was already nothing.
thing is, youre a part of the problem, and so am i. and this discussion is already a quote-spamming over the edge, so we should end it right here, because i dont think i can see your shiny good rainbow while you cant see the casual warnings i'm spiting. so whats the point.