The new hack - Page 2

Narcism · 10-27-2005, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by Tsuteto@Oct 27 2005, 05:04 AM
Oy, Narc, on the 'Update' on the main page, nothing within the chat lobby at ALL.

And so you guys know who's doing it, it's 'pushad'. He won't affect your computer at all, seeing as he really ain't doing anything with it. Here's the thread with more details:

http://www.gunzonline.com/forum/forum_post...?TID=34644&PN=1

He's only doing it more for the MAIET company to see what needs to be prevented more.

Thanks for the clearing up Tsuteto, I fixed it up.

xixixi · 10-27-2005, 04:48 AM

u fixed it up? whaddya mean? is the bug gone now then?

Mark · 10-27-2005, 08:01 AM

Nope, Narc is talking about his news article on the main page. Btw Narc, check your sentence structure around "as well."

Narcism · 10-27-2005, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by Mark@Oct 27 2005, 12:01 PM
Nope, Narc is talking about his news article on the main page. Btw Narc, check your sentence structure around "as well."

Wait, what's wrong with my use of As well, I reread the sentence a couple times.

[::Johnny::] · 10-27-2005, 10:25 PM

No, guys, it's not keyloggers. It's packet hacking. They hack their outgoing packets (info sent to the server) and imitate another user's ID, which can enable them to pretty much do what they want, only as you. It can probably go as far deleting characters (I've disassembled gunz.exe. There's a string in there related to deleting characters. There's most likely a packet that goes with it) so it's a very dangerous little thingy.

From what I can tell, a new patch would cause hackers to have to find the packets all over again, but I'm not exactly sure how/if MAIET can completely remove the problem.

Hobo_Bobo · 10-27-2005, 10:29 PM

so d'you spose this new hack might anable a hacker to...change someone's password...per say? (not that i would...my password doesnt work anymore so im tryin to figure out what happened.)

BigCJ · 10-27-2005, 10:30 PM

man.......if only i understood this bull-shnipes

Narcism · 10-27-2005, 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by Hobo_Bobo@Oct 28 2005, 02:29 AM
so d'you spose this new hack might anable a hacker to...change someone's password...per say? (not that i would...my password doesnt work anymore so im tryin to figure out what happened.)

Such an option doesn't exist in GunZ yet, so I doubt you could do it through packets

**Recursive** · 10-28-2005, 03:45 PM

Let's just say that anything you can do ON Gunz, they can do and act like it was you.

[::Johnny::] · 10-30-2005, 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by Hobo_Bobo@Oct 27 2005, 06:29 PM
so d'you spose this new hack might anable a hacker to...change someone's password...per say? (not that i would...my password doesnt work anymore so im tryin to figure out what happened.)

Impossible. At least currently.

Like Recu said, anything you can do yourself while playing Gunz, a hacker can do. Only it's a b itt harder for them.

And currently nobody's been able to "target" anyone with hacks. The hacker from the other day did it with sequential char IDs, like have ID 1 do it, then 2, then 3, then so on. Targetted hacks are possible though, for sure.

There's also something going around about the same hacker coming back sometime today (Sunday) and he's going to delete characters this time. I know for a fact it's possible, so it's probably in your best interest to stay offline today. So far it can't affect offline chars.

He said he's doing all this because A: The beta's almost over, and B: MAIET needs to get all this fixed before it DOES end.

X31V87 · 10-30-2005, 04:18 AM

I read the whole topic in the official gunz forum, too. I understand why he did this and still does it. But I think he has gone/will go too far! Probably, MAIET is already working on this but I don't know how complicated the problem is. If they need to rewrite the whole client it takes longer then just changing a few lines of it.

Does anybody of you know if the patch tomorrow will fix it?

10-30-2005, 12:28 PM

Next patch is meant to allow players to see how many people are on a server before they log in.

X31V87 · 10-30-2005, 12:58 PM

Do you really think that this is the only thing they'll do with the next patch? Not really. I hope they fix many bugs that arised with the last patch, too, like the /friend add command or the bug about Port. I think there are many more but that were the most important ones that came to my mind

**Tsuteto** · 10-30-2005, 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by [::Johnny::]+Oct 30 2005, 01:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([::Johnny::] @ Oct 30 2005, 01:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Hobo_Bobo@Oct 27 2005, 06:29 PM
so d'you spose this new hack might anable a hacker to...change someone's password...per say? (not that i would...my password doesnt work anymore so im tryin to figure out what happened.)

Impossible. At least currently.

Like Recu said, anything you can do yourself while playing Gunz, a hacker can do. Only it's a b itt harder for them.

And currently nobody's been able to "target" anyone with hacks. The hacker from the other day did it with sequential char IDs, like have ID 1 do it, then 2, then 3, then so on. Targetted hacks are possible though, for sure.

There's also something going around about the same hacker coming back sometime today (Sunday) and he's going to delete characters this time. I know for a fact it's possible, so it's probably in your best interest to stay offline today. So far it can't affect offline chars.

He said he's doing all this because A: The beta's almost over, and B: MAIET needs to get all this fixed before it DOES end. [/b][/quote]
He said he'd lay off Sunday's little 'expedition' until the patch happens. If the patch fixes it, well, he'll just move onto finding other exploits. If it doesn't, then he'll start doing such a thing.

Dishonourable · 08-27-2008, 09:10 AM

Don't go to lobby guyz.

10-27-2005, 04:48 AM	#17 (permalink)
xixixi Gunzfactorian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 158	u fixed it up? whaddya mean? is the bug gone now then? __________________ -------------------------- IGN - xixixi / euryptes -------------------------- http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a72/xixixi/gunzsigfinaledition.jpg --------------------------

10-27-2005, 08:01 AM	#18 (permalink)
Mark Gunzfactorian Soldier Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 527	Nope, Narc is talking about his news article on the main page. Btw Narc, check your sentence structure around "as well." __________________

10-27-2005, 10:25 PM	#20 (permalink)
[::Johnny::] Gunzfactorian Soldier Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 518	No, guys, it's not keyloggers. It's packet hacking. They hack their outgoing packets (info sent to the server) and imitate another user's ID, which can enable them to pretty much do what they want, only as you. It can probably go as far deleting characters (I've disassembled gunz.exe. There's a string in there related to deleting characters. There's most likely a packet that goes with it) so it's a very dangerous little thingy. From what I can tell, a new patch would cause hackers to have to find the packets all over again, but I'm not exactly sure how/if MAIET can completely remove the problem. __________________ IGN -- Freeverse http://www.johnnysquared.com

10-27-2005, 10:29 PM	#21 (permalink)
Hobo_Bobo Gunzfactorian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lost somewhere Posts: 183	so d'you spose this new hack might anable a hacker to...change someone's password...per say? (not that i would...my password doesnt work anymore so im tryin to figure out what happened.) __________________ IGN: Alter-Ego Knowledge pursues me but I am faster. Help support me! It's free! Just click the link below...plzzzz... Support Me Plz! \| My DeviantArt \| The Dead Awaken! \| Urban Dead! Join the resistance!

10-27-2005, 10:30 PM	#22 (permalink)
BigCJ Gunzfactorian Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,047 BigCJ's GamerBio	man.......if only i understood this bull-shnipes __________________ Click My Sig For The Newest GzF Fad.. Did you know BigCJ likes to TeaBag?

10-28-2005, 03:45 PM	#24 (permalink)
Recursive Retired Super-moderator Golden Gunzfactorian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: recursive Posts: 1,887	Let's just say that anything you can do ON Gunz, they can do and act like it was you.

10-30-2005, 04:18 AM	#26 (permalink)
X31V87 Gunzfactorian Patriot Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 357	I read the whole topic in the official gunz forum, too. I understand why he did this and still does it. But I think he has gone/will go too far! Probably, MAIET is already working on this but I don't know how complicated the problem is. If they need to rewrite the whole client it takes longer then just changing a few lines of it. Does anybody of you know if the patch tomorrow will fix it?

10-30-2005, 12:28 PM	#27 (permalink)
DertyBomb Guest Posts: n/a	Next patch is meant to allow players to see how many people are on a server before they log in.

10-30-2005, 12:58 PM	#28 (permalink)
X31V87 Gunzfactorian Patriot Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 357	Do you really think that this is the only thing they'll do with the next patch? Not really. I hope they fix many bugs that arised with the last patch, too, like the /friend add command or the bug about Port. I think there are many more but that were the most important ones that came to my mind

08-27-2008, 09:10 AM	#30 (permalink)
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