Prem meds

[Dogs]

I hate pmeds in its entirety, it turns gunz into a monthly pay2play game, I'm sure that pmed users dislike that kinda...

I think pmeds kind of kill the players

people will say "they don't rely on pmeds, they're just handy"
but seriously 5/5 20hp and 20ap you can heal back to 100hp and 100ap with that.
that's not handy. That's overpowered. It basically makes it, the more money, the better you have it.

I think it's almost funny how people will rs spam then hide and pmed a little then WIN while the other medless team (in a cw and such) was actually fighting

the flip side of that is pmeds just make people suck. Period.
people WILL rely on their pmeds and sometimes you can catch the guy who just bought pmeds and wants to use them, you can actually follow that person and watch them pmed then pb and steal (no seriously, I've done this about 5+ times)
pmeds just make people stupid, when people are medding you can lunge them over or pb them or anything and they will want to get that last med they dropped, violently pressing W as they get lunged on the ground, taunted, then pb'd after they are already up because they were too busy typing "wtf noob" (how contrary) instead of actually fighting.


Needless to say, pmeds just screw over the game.

[han_Han]

This doesn't require much discussion. Prem meds are simple. People give up REAL money for in-game item, thus they have a resource other than "skill" that can add to their chance of winning (i.e. money, rich parents, w/e). The only logical thing to do is to:
A. throw fecal matter at your computer screen
B. complain about prem meds on gzf
C. moan to ijji about their evil commercial purpose (making money)
D. continue to moan about this subject because no one else has ever brought this up and ijji totally cares about our opinion.
OR
E. Shut the **** up and buy your own prem meds
(F. none of the below)

Oh and for the record, I don't have prem meds. Summary: Rich kids get better equipment. That's how it is in life, that's how it is in gunz also. Money may not always buy happiness, but it can buy you prem meds that will cause everyone to ***** about having to kill you twice.

[Gotosleep]

get rid of pmeds >=O

[Membership]

they should bring it down to 15 hp p med and 15 ap p med
that way it takes some of the power away..

[kyuubijutsu]

Imo pmeds wouldn't seem so "broken" to the more casual crowd if we showed them less theory playing talk and more proof of how to actually deal with pmeds >_>; I totally agree with Whist and Rose ideas. Not to mention pmeds aren't that great anyway since you can just get kimbap + ice cream for free instead -_-.

[Twisted Dreams]

I'd doubt premium meds being taken out because they mean money to ijji.

I'd really love things to go back to regular med packs or nades, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen.

[peaceofpi]

Prem meds wouldn't be so bad if ping wasn't a factor, but it is. The end.

[Casval Zem Daikun]

This will amount to nothing, sadly. I wonder how many of these topics have been posted. As usual, people will say "Wow, premium meds that heal 20 HP/AP! And there's 5 per pack! That's a whole 'nother life!"
Then after a whole year or so, people start to see what we saw in the first place and the kind of effect it'll have on the general meta. Just like when RS first came out and we petitioned to get it patched. Wave after wave of idiots flooded in spouting the "don't limit us" comeback.

A whole year and some amount of time after, people are tired of RS and want it gone. Same with p-meds.

What irony is this?

[Dogs]

Originally Posted by Casval Zem Daikun

This will amount to nothing, sadly. I wonder how many of these topics have been posted. As usual, people will say "Wow, premium meds that heal 20 HP/AP! And there's 5 per pack! That's a whole 'nother life!"
Then after a whole year or so, people start to see what we saw in the first place and the kind of effect it'll have on the general meta. Just like when RS first came out and we petitioned to get it patched. Wave after wave of idiots flooded in spouting the "don't limit us" comeback.

A whole year and some amount of time after, people are tired of RS and want it gone. Same with p-meds.

What irony is this?

ironic irony

[_Crozling_]

We don't to get rid of pmeds, IJJI would NEVER do that just maybe make them less powerful.

[Mach-6]

Originally Posted by han_Han

Summary: Rich kids get better equipment. That's how it is in life, that's how it is in gunz also.

Except Gunz isn't about real life and how money affords power, it's a ****ing game.

[-Roxin]

;0 i dont like em either

[mateusq]

Reload shot glitch is hard to fix...

And you still talking about money... Im talking about its overpower..

I suggest at maximum a 10 charge med 10 hp or ap recover (slowly than actually meds)

[Sachiko ¡¢]

Originally Posted by Whist

It loses strategy and becomes a luck game?

I beg to differ.
What makes people say it's a luck game is when they just flop around doing as I call "fish on land" style which is sword cancelation moves spammed to an insane degree.
See, it's NOT a luck game. Yes, there's always the element of luck but it's not like it's the biggest determining factor in a win or a loss unless of course, you simply spam DBF at people and RS in their general direction like most players do.
Sure you can argue that when you die because somebody aimed directly at you and shot you it's luck because you were unlucky they learned how to aim. Everything is "luck". But a true luck game is a game like Mario Party (the newest ones are the worst) where you cannot control how many spaces you move, you can only control how well you do in the randomly decided mi****mes which in no way ensures a win. THAT is luck. But in GunZ where you can control everything except for the player's pings and skill level...that's NOT a luck game...

When you actually aim your gun at people it becomes a skill game. And meds only make the game last longer. Sure there's the chance that you can chase somebody and kill them before they med, but most of the time they can hop around a corner and pop a med, but it's not like they can keep doing that.

Not to mention, a lot of people don't med when they're down a little hp and the med wont' over heal them, they wait until they're half hp or lower to do it resulting in them needing to spam meds to heal...these people usually run around a corner and spam meds...which is the perfect time to kill them. If you don't fly around the corner and get the pb, they whip out their sword and instantly hold block (99% of the time) which means you have the advantage because they're still in "holy crap defense mode" while you're in "dick stomping offensive mode" which means they aren't going to be dishing out a lot of damage, only trying to block yours.


I think the problem with meds is majority of the gunz population doesn't want to have a challenging fight or a fight that lasts long. They want to be able to go in to a CW, rip the opposing team a new asshole with-in 20 seconds and leave just to do it again. I don't even think most people are playing because they find gunz "fun" any more, they just find it a way to try to prove they're better than everybody.
The reason they use gunz is because it's NOT a luck game it takes skill. You don't see anybody playing mario party to prove they're better than everybody else..because they cannot control enough in the game to be able to win since there's so many ways for other players to get a special space or for them to get a really bad space or just miss all the special spaces ect.

I don't oppose meds. I hate that duelers **** a brick when somebody meds. I didn't realize that even though somebody is using up a decent amount of weight to hold meds sacrificing some total ap and hp for them it's still cheap to use them even though the person they're fighting is using all their weight for shotguns and the highest ap/hp armor.

When you play fish-on-land style I can see why it's a problem when people heal, because you spent the last 2 minutes RS spamming in their direction and got lucky enough to knock them down to where you'd probably win with another lucky random shot for decent damage but then when they heal you have to start all over again. That's why you learn how to COUNTER the med strategy by going on offensive which means getting right up on them so they can't run far enough away to med.

How do you counter a DBF spammer? You turtle.
How do you counter a turtle? You flip them or downslash and get them while they're attempting a stun.

Everything has a counter. For some reason people cannot figure out that you can counter meders by simply following them.
But they can also counter you by not medding and corner camping.

Which is why you need to know you're opponent.
It's not luck, it's brains and strategy.



Not to mention the fact that people pay monthly for premium meds. ijji isn't losing enough players because of premium meds that it would be more profitable to NOT sell them.

The main thing is, all of these "top tier players" would get crushed by even average gunz players without premium meds, because of the lack of teamwork that I see when I CW vs them. Also, with a good team, I don't lose to these same people in oldschool CWs. And even in regular CWs when they use premium meds and I don't, I still manage to win a ****load of CWs >_<" AND carry my team usually.

[Contestant]

Meds r for the weak.