Half-Step Is Like SS

NightHawk_james · 11-21-2005, 06:08 PM

Yo Half-Step whats the difference with SS? For some reason i dont see the diff! AND YOU KNOW WHEN YOU FLASH STEP DO YOU USE THE SCROLL OR KEYBOARD???? RECRUSIVE YOUR THE BEST WHAT SERVER DO YOU PLAY IN?

Carth · 11-21-2005, 06:16 PM

Omg caps. h4x033z

Bag Of Chips · 11-21-2005, 06:21 PM

Caps = intelligence.

**Recursive** · 11-21-2005, 06:25 PM

Half step is much more different than ss

And I play on server 3. And thanks

NSman · 11-21-2005, 11:46 PM

Half step is a moving SS
'nuff said.

BigCJ · 11-22-2005, 01:28 AM

wow im i hearing "Recursives #2 Fan"?

**Recursive** · 11-22-2005, 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by NSman@Nov 21 2005, 11:46 PM
Half step is a moving SS
'nuff said.

Pretty much, except more useful than it sounds. Many people just use the half step because it's the half step, and it's a higher end k-style move. It can be used for placement for a getaway, or a rush, or a strategic position WHILE dealing damage. An example of this would be in town, where near CT you can half step around the CT and hit anyone camping/doing anything behind it, or behind the corner after the stairs in the alleys.

HS can also be used to again, hide behind things, to shoot in the air then take cover behind a wall.

guobin2 · 11-22-2005, 12:23 PM

Hm, I've always done the same thing using the SS, though I flow it into a flash step for movement.

Admiral HML · 11-22-2005, 01:07 PM

No! I want to be recursives number one fan!

I guess I half-step then... hm... Oh well, I get pwnt no matter what I do. ):

***ValorduX*** · 11-22-2005, 03:50 PM

In a way, SS is like a halfstep cause you basically do slashshot in it. But at the same time, it's different cause it seems to shoot faster(from how I see it). And supporting recursives statements: You can shoot from behind a wall without being detected as easily as if you were to roll out. You pretty much halfstep out and shoot, then get back behind the wall. If you were to slashshot/roll out, you will most likely be detected(Faster at least).

**Recursive** · 11-22-2005, 06:00 PM

Here's a more detailed post now that I am home..

Slash-shot is a core more and should and will not (Trust me, once you know half step, using slashshot is like using a Nico r5 over a maxwell lx44)

So basically, what I am saying is that Slash-Shot is outdated, and people should start to take up and learn to adapt with the Half Step.

The half step is better because it lowers your probability of your next move being generally predicted (This meaning you aren't blocked in any direction, and are not receiving resistance from any direction) to 1/16, instead of the Slashshot's 1/4. Why would you need to predict where someone is going?

Shot leading. Shooting at targets upon descent. Easiest way to hit people is to get them where their dash is going to end.

This means you want to be as unpredictable as you can, which the half-step gives you.

Also, the half-step has a GREAT RANGE of movement over the slashshot. The slashshot moves like a King, in chess, whereas the halfstep acts as more of the knight piece.

***ValorduX*** · 11-22-2005, 07:49 PM

Hmm, nice pic there. Gives me something new to think about ^^ Anyway, for Half step, when you dash the second time, it should be AFTER you hit change weapon and dash(2nd) in the middle of the sword chance to weapon right? So it looks like you're dashing with a sword? Just trying to clear this up for myself as I usually don't see people halfstepping slow enough for me to notice the dash on weapon change.

NSman · 11-22-2005, 10:29 PM

Jump, dash, slash, switch, shoot, dash with gun

Admiral HML · 11-22-2005, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NSman@Nov 22 2005, 11:29 PM
Jump, dash, slash, switch, shoot, dash with gun

What exactly do you mean by "dash with gun" wouldn't that be tumbling?

Just to clarify. I'm a Half-Step noob.

BigCJ · 11-23-2005, 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by HowManyLicks@Nov 22 2005, 06:07 PM
No! I want to be recursives number one fan!

I guess I half-step then... hm... Oh well, I get pwnt no matter what I do. ):

my job ^^

on topic: just look at the replays on the homepage if you can (i know i cant) for a sight of it

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11-21-2005, 06:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
NightHawk_james Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 9	Yo Half-Step whats the difference with SS? For some reason i dont see the diff! AND YOU KNOW WHEN YOU FLASH STEP DO YOU USE THE SCROLL OR KEYBOARD???? RECRUSIVE YOUR THE BEST WHAT SERVER DO YOU PLAY IN?

11-21-2005, 06:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
Recursive Retired Super-moderator Golden Gunzfactorian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: recursive Posts: 1,887	Half step is much more different than ss And I play on server 3. And thanks

11-22-2005, 01:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
Admiral HML Gunzfactorian Hero Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Moooooooooo! Posts: 3,204 Admiral HML's GamerBio	No! I want to be recursives number one fan! I guess I half-step then... hm... Oh well, I get pwnt no matter what I do. ): __________________ Insane(Panda) Level 52, HowManyLicks(Panties) Level 50

11-22-2005, 03:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
*ValorduX* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 2,135	In a way, SS is like a halfstep cause you basically do slashshot in it. But at the same time, it's different cause it seems to shoot faster(from how I see it). And supporting recursives statements: You can shoot from behind a wall without being detected as easily as if you were to roll out. You pretty much halfstep out and shoot, then get back behind the wall. If you were to slashshot/roll out, you will most likely be detected(Faster at least). __________________ The Big List of Guides PM me if you would like your crosshair/screenshot/replay on the main site

11-22-2005, 06:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
Recursive Retired Super-moderator Golden Gunzfactorian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: recursive Posts: 1,887	Here's a more detailed post now that I am home.. Slash-shot is a core more and should and will not (Trust me, once you know half step, using slashshot is like using a Nico r5 over a maxwell lx44) So basically, what I am saying is that Slash-Shot is outdated, and people should start to take up and learn to adapt with the Half Step. The half step is better because it lowers your probability of your next move being generally predicted (This meaning you aren't blocked in any direction, and are not receiving resistance from any direction) to 1/16, instead of the Slashshot's 1/4. Why would you need to predict where someone is going? Shot leading. Shooting at targets upon descent. Easiest way to hit people is to get them where their dash is going to end. This means you want to be as unpredictable as you can, which the half-step gives you. Also, the half-step has a GREAT RANGE of movement over the slashshot. The slashshot moves like a King, in chess, whereas the halfstep acts as more of the knight piece.

11-22-2005, 07:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
*ValorduX* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 2,135	Hmm, nice pic there. Gives me something new to think about ^^ Anyway, for Half step, when you dash the second time, it should be AFTER you hit change weapon and dash(2nd) in the middle of the sword chance to weapon right? So it looks like you're dashing with a sword? Just trying to clear this up for myself as I usually don't see people halfstepping slow enough for me to notice the dash on weapon change. __________________ The Big List of Guides PM me if you would like your crosshair/screenshot/replay on the main site

11-22-2005, 10:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
NSman Gunzfactorian Hero Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West Coast Posts: 3,790 NSman's GamerBio	Jump, dash, slash, switch, shoot, dash with gun __________________ http://www.gunzfactor.com/forums/437725-post17.html <= My contribution to the Gunz community.