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Old 05-24-2007, 05:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Maybe it's a mental thing, I don't know. But there's one thing that keeps bothering me and I just want a confirmation from the community. The Devil Slayer has the shortest reach of all non-premium swords right? I can't instafall as well with Devil Slayer as I could with other non-prem swords. If it's true, then boo for Maiet. It would also mean I can't slash as far... and sword can be essential at times for me.

I've been thinking so long if I wanted to get a Ring of Emperor or not, but I'd rather have +5 hp/ap and sacrifice 2 dmg than have +5 ap and -5 hp or ap with extra added weight that I don't even need. $5.50 for that ring, I could buy something else worth spending on than that. ahhhhhhhhh
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Old 05-24-2007, 06:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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the next time you buy chipotle, think
this delicious buritto OR emperors ring?

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Old 05-24-2007, 07:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Its the same....
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Old 05-24-2007, 07:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Its the same....
Don't post unless you have actual evidence, it makes you look really stupid when someone proves you wrong.... thanks for contributing to the thread.
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Old 05-24-2007, 07:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You actually have the sword, right? Why don't you just attempt to slash people with the tip of your blade? Then switch swords and see if it seems different.
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Old 05-24-2007, 07:51 PM   #6 (permalink)
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You actually have the sword, right? Why don't you just attempt to slash people with the tip of your blade? Then switch swords and see if it seems different.

Already tried that, I want to see how many people actually think/know if this is really true. Then again, like I said, it might just be a mental thing like how some people think that female characters are faster than males at K Style.
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Old 05-24-2007, 07:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Already tried that, I want to see how many people actually think/know if this is really true. Then again, like I said, it might just be a mental thing like how some people think that female characters are faster than males at K Style.
If only I actually had a computer to play on, I'd buy the sword and try it myself >.>
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
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It SHOULD be the same. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Imo it should have the same range... why would they make it different?

I also have doubts about other hidden stats weapons have. Or if they even exist. Is there any "reader" that can open gunz data files?
Or maybe the melee range is hardcoded into the game, but that would imply all having the same range, at least within class.
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I know how you feel. I use to instafall 100%, hell i can do any combo that involves instafall. But since the new patcher on me female im like 2/10 for instafall with my Dark Karma. With my male i can do it like 6/10 with Yong Wol Rang... WTH happened?!?
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Maybe it's a mental thing, I don't know. But there's one thing that keeps bothering me and I just want a confirmation from the community. The Devil Slayer has the shortest reach of all non-premium swords right? I can't instafall as well with Devil Slayer as I could with other non-prem swords. If it's true, then boo for Maiet. It would also mean I can't slash as far... and sword can be essential at times for me.

I've been thinking so long if I wanted to get a Ring of Emperor or not, but I'd rather have +5 hp/ap and sacrifice 2 dmg than have +5 ap and -5 hp or ap with extra added weight that I don't even need. $5.50 for that ring, I could buy something else worth spending on than that. ahhhhhhhhh
All non-prem swords have the same exact range, even though their models may or may not reach where the range is(Devil Slayer's model is shorter than the range)
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
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All non-prem swords have the same exact range, even though their models may or may not reach where the range is(Devil Slayer's model is shorter than the range)
Could you PLEASE, give me some proof man because you can't just say that without evidence. There's a difference between saying "I think it is" and "is".
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Old 05-25-2007, 01:05 AM   #13 (permalink)
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lots of people use devil slayer, just suck-it-up and use it. get used to not having the uber long reach of the golden noobstick
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Old 05-25-2007, 02:03 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I unpacked system.mrs.
This is straight from zitem.xml. The range on all non-prem swords = 220.
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<ITEM id="16" name="STR:ZITEM_NAME_16" mesh_name="katana06" totalpoint="0" type="melee"
res_sex="a" res_level="40" slot="melee" weapon="katana" weight="11" bt_price="7200"
delay="339" damage="22" range="220" ctrl_ability="0" magazine="0" reloadtime="0" slug_output="false"
gadget_id="0" hp="0" ap="0" maxwt="0" sf="0" fr="0" cr="0" pr="0" lr="0" color="#FFFFFFFF"
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Don't post unless you have actual evidence, it makes you look really stupid when someone proves you wrong.... thanks for contributing to the thread.
It makes you look really stupid when you say something like that only to find out that you just made an ass out of yourself, rather than being cynical or clever.


Are you happy now? Geez, what crawled up your ass this morning....
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^He's kinda right you know.
There's a high possibility that you've taken a break and gotten rusty with yer skills.
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