shotgun discussion

[Sil]

ok so my friend says that all the bullets that come out of one shotgun has only 6 dmg or w/e the shotgun your using. He also says this even doh he never used a shotty. I told him that each of the little bullets(about 13) is the amount of dmg it says at the shop. So if all the bullets hit the other person its like 78 dmg. This is probably the truth so yea. Anyways I'd like to discuss the Switch Shot problem. When ppl switch shot with 2 shottys it looks like they're hacking, but guess what? THEY'RE NOT that's why its called switch shot. shoot-->switch-->shoot-->switch and so and so forth. This makes it shoot faster in a way. Ok and another thing, when people hs with shotguns it's not exactly called spraying because the shotgun's delay is about 1000. However the assualt rifles and smg's delay is between 80-120, so that shotgun doesn't repeatedly shoot and spray everywhere for about 20 seconds. It's like this shoot once-->wait 3 sec.-->shoot once-->wait 3 sec.-->shoot once-->wait 3 sec.-->shoot once-->wait 3 sec. to reload-->repeat. There ya go, thats the difference between spray weapons and shotties. I'm not saying smgs and assualt rifles are nooby, some people actually AIM with them. One more thing, when someone massives you and blasts you with a shotgun, dont whine and say "CHEAP SHOT GET A REAL WEAPON YOU ASS". YOUR the one that got popped like a sitting duck, and when you say that crap it just encourages us to pop you even more. So instead of whining, compliment them and maybe their fingers will tire out over some time.

thanks for reading

NO FLAMING PLEASE ~_^

-Sil

[Dgaus]

compare the Shotguns damage with a revolver and dual revolver... shouldn't ir be equal for each bullet?? ok... 1 revolver does 25 dmg... dual revolvers make 50... shotguns 7 for each bullet... shouldn't be the sum of all lil thingies that the shotgun shots?? @_@

same thing with SMG

[Sil]

Originally Posted by Dgaus

compare the Shotguns damage with a revolver and dual revolver... shouldn't ir be equal for each bullet?? ok... 1 revolver does 25 dmg... dual revolvers make 50... shotguns 7 for each bullet... shouldn't be the sum of all lil thingies that the shotgun shots?? @_@

same thing with SMG

THAT'S WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT! shotgun discussion!! YEA!!

[Less Than 3]

yes shotguns shoot 12 pellets, and each does the damage listed, for a total dmg of 7x12 or 9x12 depending on the shotgun. (b8 = b7 in dmg for 9x12. b6=b5 in dmg for 7x12.)

shotgun are definitely a sprayer's gun, since they shoot 12 bullets per second. A delay of 1000 is in milliseconds (1000ms = 1sec). Rifles have a delay of 80-90, and shoot 1 bullet at a time, which comes out to be 11bullets per second. Shotguns shoot out more bullets in a shorter amount of time, PLUS covering a wide area. if that's not spraying, i don't know what is. Not to mention you can swap shotguns for 24bullets/sec output or even do swap cancel with them.

[Dgaus]

then should it be Revolvs and Shotguns discution... and... no more math plz >_<

[Sil]

Originally Posted by Less Than 3

yes shotguns shoot 12 pellets, and each does the damage listed, for a total dmg of 7x12 or 9x12 depending on the shotgun. (b8 = b7 in dmg for 9x12. b6=b5 in dmg for 7x12.)

shotgun are definitely a sprayer's gun, since they shoot 12 bullets per second. A delay of 1000 is in milliseconds (1000ms = 1sec). Rifles have a delay of 80-90, and shoot 1 bullet at a time, which comes out to be 11bullets per second. Shotguns shoot out more bullets in a shorter amount of time, PLUS covering a wide area. if that's not spraying, i don't know what is. Not to mention you can swap shotguns for 24bullets/sec output or even do swap cancel with them.

maybe there like 10% sprayish but most are aim and accuracy. I've already tested this with a nico lvl 25, breakers, and a regular smg. I backed away from a wall to a certain distance and shot them to see which one spreads out more. the nico came out to spray the most, then smg, then shotgun. So shotguns are actually the least spraying gun. Well i guess that means shotguns aren't really a sprayer's weapon. Besides shotguns weren't listed in the E-style guide and the sprayer's guide that Sigma made a few days ago.

[Sil]

Originally Posted by Dgaus

then should it be Revolvs and Shotguns discution... and... no more math plz >_<

lol the main weapon were talking about is shotguns doh.

[black†coffee]

im a dual shotty user and i must say its very useful, thing is ppl who do use dual shottahz also spray just stand somewhere and swaith swaith switch.... gets very annoying.still i love to play with dual shottys lol

[Zim-Zum]

I'm going to flame just because.

Omg I suck

PWNED

Anyway, you will run into ignorant people who say you hack when you just use paticular skills and own them. I never really used shotguns much. More of an SMG guy. Get em down a long hallway and unload while they try and dash with sword. Instat own.

[Sil]

Originally Posted by Zim-Zum

I'm going to flame just because.

Omg I suck

PWNED

Anyway, you will run into ignorant people who say you hack when you just use paticular skills and own them. I never really used shotguns much. More of an SMG guy. Get em down a long hallway and unload while they try and dash with sword. Instat own.

lol not really a flame post...anyways the ppl who accuse other peepz of hacking because they use diff. skills are just playing around or are just plain asses. I never found someone who was actually serious about it, just joking that's all

[Zim-Zum]

Originally Posted by Sil

lol not really a flame post...anyways the ppl who accuse other peepz of hacking because they use diff. skills are just playing around or are just plain asses. I never found someone who was actually serious about it, just joking that's all

Hahaha, you are lucky my friend.

[Sil]

Originally Posted by Zim-Zum

Hahaha, you are lucky my friend.

can't we switch that around and say "you are my lucky friend, hahaha". sounds better in a way...

[Zim-Zum]

Originally Posted by Sil

can't we switch that around and say "you are my lucky friend, hahaha". sounds better in a way...

I laugh first so I don't get any witty comments about he who laughs last because I laughed first... Savvy?

[Redorath]

Shotties are more of a specialist weapon, I never liked them much myself, more of a pistol/rev person. It takes IMO a great deal of skill to get the most out of a shotgun, especially while using k-style moves, as it's hard to aim well whilst you're moving fast, plus it's not much of a spraying weapon, although it shoots out 12 pellets per second, also if you do damageXammo the shotgun comes out as one of the least damaging weapons, it only does damage in big chunks. 2 shotties at a time limits your fighting options a little, but props to all the shotgun users that do it well, I pray you never hit me.

[Dazrix]

Less then 3 hit the nail on the head when he said shotguns are sprayers weapons. In terms of bullets fired, the shotgun sprays the equivalent of an SMG clip in under 3 seconds if you just use switch-shoot. An SMG Doesn't unload that fast. Also, Shotguns are the easiest to aim with BECAUSE OF THE SPRAY. you get someone in Town where you'll be near clock tower, put them on the other side of the map, and just unload your SG's using switch shoot - tell me how much area you cover? Answer: A friggen lot more then an SMG.

1) SMG would fire less bullets

2) SMG's accuracy might be off, but the further you go back, the more wide spread the SG is.

3) SG's are tons easy to aim with cause you barely have to aim long distance. Specially with Avengers. They do loads of dmg.

If you think I'm incorrect about my statement (Sg's being easier to aim with) give an SG user a rifle, SMG or a pistol/rev and see how good there accuracy is then. How well will they do with precision and PRECISION ONLY.