my theory: max stats users

Mo Hawk · 03-05-2007, 05:01 PM

after thinking very hard i have came to a conclusion.

(this is for prem users mainly)

First off the state of gunz right now is a high number of SG(shotgun) users. Now SG do most dmg if not all to the ap then when the ap reachs 0 the hp. The first thought that now the first thing that pops into your head is HIGH AP NEEDED to survive, and this would be wrong. You do not want to give up total stats (hp+ap) for more ap. My reasoning behind this is simple, but first i will need to describe the dmg calculations(vetrans need not read).SG are listed as doing 5-9 dmg but as you notice that the dmg delivered is MUCH higher. This is because a SG uses a spread of pellets each doing the listed amount of dmg. There are 12 pellets per shot.(Vetrans pick up here) These shots go directly to the ap and not the hp or very little such as 1 or 2 per shot not pellet. Now in the max Ap theory you would be sacrificing the help that premiums give your hp. Now if you use the max HP theory you would be giving up some AP. In truth you should strive for max stats not just max HP or AP.

SUMMARY(for those unwilling to read entire text)
HP+AP= TOTAL STATS = YES
High AP + low HP= NO
High HP + low AP= NO

A SG must go through both to achieve a kill. Thus a higher combined stat of AP+HP would be the best combo.

SwordPlusGun · 03-05-2007, 05:03 PM

I guess so.

Admiral Awesome (115 votes) · 03-05-2007, 05:03 PM

How it kill so ez 1 hits?

Mo Hawk · 03-05-2007, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral Awesome

How it kill so ez 1 hits?

im assuming you are talking about if you have low AP compared to HP?

let me show you!
usally when a person decides not to use alot of AP and focus more on HP they forget to see the fact that they need both AP and HP to not die.

~~Weener~~ · 03-05-2007, 05:06 PM

As long as i get the total amount of hp/ap the same, it doesnt matter to me.

180hp / 20 ap
20hp / 180ap
100 hp / 100 ap

^ thay all add to 200, so it doesn't really matter unless they get head shots.

Mo Hawk · 03-05-2007, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweep2006

As long as i get the total amount of hp/ap the same, it doesnt matter to me.

180hp / 20 ap
20hp / 180ap
100 hp / 100 ap

^ thay all add to 200, so it doesn't really matter unless they get head shots.

EXACTLY!!!!!
but if you want to get technical the 180hp is better.(rare rev user)

manofsparrow · 03-05-2007, 05:09 PM

Problem with 20hp... revolvers/pistols will slaughter you. Or you can just stab people with your melee weapon. Or kill people in 1 hit with rockets. Anything else I'm forgetting?

Liquidfox · 03-05-2007, 05:14 PM

K when I use avenger and kill you in 1 pb you have fun with your hp + ap!! jk

Mo Hawk · 03-05-2007, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquidfox

K when I use avenger and kill you in 1 pb you have fun with your hp + ap!! jk

wanna bet!?
i will use only 70 ap and 130 hp and if u kill me in one shot i will buy u a hat.

Arch2 · 03-05-2007, 05:25 PM

My gunz character Arch2Dreary Has 113hp and 113ap with prems. He survives very well.

Nayruu · 03-05-2007, 05:48 PM

its better to have more hp than ap. ap drains faster plus you can survive with 0 ap. my in-game friend's new armor selection was an example of really good stats

118 hp/ 103 ap

you need both to stay alive for a decent while, but when it comes down to choosing 1 over the other i would definately pick hp

Slap · 03-05-2007, 05:50 PM

The thing you have to balance too is if you use medical kits.

If you have, like you said 70AP and 130HP, and your using the 5 set premium medical kits, your going to have AP spares, which is bad.

han_Han · 03-05-2007, 06:32 PM

Excluding premiums, I'd go more AP than HP simply because the total AP added for HP is greater. In other words, the "total points" you mentioned factors into this. If you went all out AP, you'd get more points per weight than if you went all out HP. You're right about the total points theory, but it's still important to keep in mind that not everyone plays with prems =P.

Slap is right about the balance as well, only that I think it shouldn't be too much of a problem if you're continuously fighting a shotgun user, since they do take much more AP than HP per hit (assuming you have a maximum amount of AP to take.)

03-05-2007, 05:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mo Hawk Gunzfactorian Postcount Demi-God Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 7,734	my theory: max stats users after thinking very hard i have came to a conclusion. (this is for prem users mainly) First off the state of gunz right now is a high number of SG(shotgun) users. Now SG do most dmg if not all to the ap then when the ap reachs 0 the hp. The first thought that now the first thing that pops into your head is HIGH AP NEEDED to survive, and this would be wrong. You do not want to give up total stats (hp+ap) for more ap. My reasoning behind this is simple, but first i will need to describe the dmg calculations(vetrans need not read).SG are listed as doing 5-9 dmg but as you notice that the dmg delivered is MUCH higher. This is because a SG uses a spread of pellets each doing the listed amount of dmg. There are 12 pellets per shot.(Vetrans pick up here) These shots go directly to the ap and not the hp or very little such as 1 or 2 per shot not pellet. Now in the max Ap theory you would be sacrificing the help that premiums give your hp. Now if you use the max HP theory you would be giving up some AP. In truth you should strive for max stats not just max HP or AP. SUMMARY(for those unwilling to read entire text) HP+AP= TOTAL STATS = YES High AP + low HP= NO High HP + low AP= NO A SG must go through both to achieve a kill. Thus a higher combined stat of AP+HP would be the best combo. __________________ BASTARD!!!!!!!!

03-05-2007, 05:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
Admiral Awesome (115 votes) Gunzfactorian Commando Tournaments Won: 1 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,326 Admiral Awesome (115 votes)'s GamerBio	Re: my theory: max stats users How it kill so ez 1 hits?

03-05-2007, 05:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
~~Weener~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: LOLREDRANGER! IGN: Speed Posts: 2,928	Re: my theory: max stats users As long as i get the total amount of hp/ap the same, it doesnt matter to me. 180hp / 20 ap 20hp / 180ap 100 hp / 100 ap ^ thay all add to 200, so it doesn't really matter unless they get head shots.

03-05-2007, 05:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
manofsparrow Gunzfactorian Commando Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,685 manofsparrow's GamerBio	Re: my theory: max stats users Problem with 20hp... revolvers/pistols will slaughter you. Or you can just stab people with your melee weapon. Or kill people in 1 hit with rockets. Anything else I'm forgetting?

03-05-2007, 05:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
Arch2 Gunzfactorian Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 111 Arch2's GamerBio	Re: my theory: max stats users My gunz character Arch2Dreary Has 113hp and 113ap with prems. He survives very well. __________________ arch2 arch [aarch] adj 1. knowingly playful or mischievous: expressing playfulness, mischief, or shared humor in a knowing way 2. most extreme: greatest, especially most hostile I Dislike Ignorant people. Names and Glitches

03-05-2007, 05:50 PM	#12 (permalink)
Slap Gunzfactorian Postcount Demi-God Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Daggershot Posts: 8,150	Re: my theory: max stats users The thing you have to balance too is if you use medical kits. If you have, like you said 70AP and 130HP, and your using the 5 set premium medical kits, your going to have AP spares, which is bad. __________________

03-05-2007, 06:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
han_Han Gunzfactorian Guardian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,308	Re: my theory: max stats users Excluding premiums, I'd go more AP than HP simply because the total AP added for HP is greater. In other words, the "total points" you mentioned factors into this. If you went all out AP, you'd get more points per weight than if you went all out HP. You're right about the total points theory, but it's still important to keep in mind that not everyone plays with prems =P. Slap is right about the balance as well, only that I think it shouldn't be too much of a problem if you're continuously fighting a shotgun user, since they do take much more AP than HP per hit (assuming you have a maximum amount of AP to take.)