How is RS pro?

~~Diamons Shadow~~ · 03-03-2007, 11:19 PM

First off, RS is canceling a delay between two guns and rapidly firing back and forth.

Now, as many of you know, every gun has a weakness.

Rifle = scrambled shots, weak damage per bullet
Pistol/Rev = pinpoint accuracy
Rocket Launcher = slow bullet traveling rate, weak splash damage, delay
Shotgun = delay, and weak damage from afar

Now, RS gets rid of two weaknesses.

Delay, and damage per bullet. For rifle, it has no effect, because the rapid fire rate is greater then RSing between two rifles.

For pistol/rev, it's just simply another dot on your screen, it's so small, it barely has a difference.

Rocket launcher gets rid of the delay and spams the entire screen.

Shotgun gets rid of the delay and spams the entire screen.

How is that fair? Well, most would say damage per pellet makes up for it, but does it really? You're cramming twice the damage into one second, and if that were PB, that would finish the opponent. While Rev, on the other hand, would have no difference. Rifle would also have no difference. A rocket launcher would get increased damage, and a larger target area.

The two guns primarily effected by RS is rocket launcher and shotgun. RS unbalances the game for the other two weapons, but balances shotgun and rocket launcher onto a higher level. Most would consider it still fair, if those two weapons for higher levels.

The fact that shotguns spray a large area, with increased damage as the RS doubles the damage makes it unfair because 1)damage is overly increased, getting rid of the weakness that shotguns don't hurt enough from afar 2)delay is decreased, making fighting back directly nearly impossibly as you cannot stay in one spot too long else they'll get two pumps into you.

Same goes for rockets, but not so much. The fact that the users hurt themselves, and the traveling rate of the bullet keep it considerably balanced.

For those of you who say I'm flaming RS because I can't do it, think again. For those who still think that RS is pro, prove it.

Technician · 03-03-2007, 11:23 PM

You can't deny that it's effective.

Julian · 03-03-2007, 11:23 PM

Its pro if you know hot to use it well.

~~Diamons Shadow~~ · 03-03-2007, 11:23 PM

Effective, but at what price? RS kills, but so do hacks.

Technician · 03-03-2007, 11:50 PM

Hacks are banned. As for RS, well, it's kind of accepted.

TheJackOfAllTrades · 03-03-2007, 11:55 PM

Its a move. In my opinion, each and every move, if used effectively, can be pro. As much as I don't like the fact that RS is making this game into "who can spam shotties fastest?", its pro when used by the right person.

lentan · 03-04-2007, 04:02 AM

i voted yes i like rs but I DONT USE RS at all...

So what.. I LOVE wasting people's shots. Funny to see 1v1 matches where a person runs out of ammo. Fifty shots. Wasted.

Coz of rs.

I cannot stress enough how techniques alone WILL NOT get you kills.

Hymnosi · 03-04-2007, 04:06 AM

I good dodger will beat a good aimer if they know what they are doing.

Love thy lag.

BoBinA76 · 03-04-2007, 04:10 AM

I used to think it was horrible and annoying and "noobish" but then i got fed up and started using it myself. Despite what you say, you will use it 1 day so theres no points moaning about it now.

Also how can you possibly say that it takes away the skill? it takes alot more skill to press r at the end of every slashshot, rather than jsut doing it normally

Technician · 03-04-2007, 04:40 AM

Actually it doesn't take much skill.

x_ChaOs_x · 03-04-2007, 05:04 AM

IT should be more like

"No, it's not fair. It makes it unfair for other gun users, killing the entire theory (and practical..) of BALANCE. "

but swapshot already did it....kinda....Rs makes it worse

There, i just repeated myself for the #$%#%#% time

Technician · 03-04-2007, 05:05 AM

RS is damn useful in 2 vs 2 Clan Wars especially. Just camp and keep RSing them while your team mate dbfs.

x_ChaOs_x · 03-04-2007, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hymn

I good dodger will beat a good aimer if they know what they are doing.

Love thy lag.

especially one with premium meds <.<

It's amusing to find guys in duels who start fooling around with me expecting me to waste my ammo with my sucky aim.....so pro.....then they start shooting and..guess what....they also miss xD

Gunz, the missfest <.<

Krfstniper · 03-04-2007, 08:48 AM

It's not fair, and since when the rs has been discovered a lot of player just do reload shot without using kstyle, like archetype.

Purr · 03-04-2007, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krfstniper

It's not fair, and since when the rs has been discovered a lot of player just do reload shot without using kstyle, like archetype.

ROFL \

View Poll Results: Is RS fair/balanced?
Yes, it's pro. It's part of the game, who cares if it unbalances the game? Everyone uses it.	105	58.01%
No, it's not fair. It makes it unfair for other gun users, killing the entire theory of skill.	76	41.99%
Voters: 181. You may not vote on this poll

03-03-2007, 11:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
~~Diamons Shadow~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2,775 Diamons Shadow's GamerBio	How is RS pro? First off, RS is canceling a delay between two guns and rapidly firing back and forth. Now, as many of you know, every gun has a weakness. Rifle = scrambled shots, weak damage per bullet Pistol/Rev = pinpoint accuracy Rocket Launcher = slow bullet traveling rate, weak splash damage, delay Shotgun = delay, and weak damage from afar Now, RS gets rid of two weaknesses. Delay, and damage per bullet. For rifle, it has no effect, because the rapid fire rate is greater then RSing between two rifles. For pistol/rev, it's just simply another dot on your screen, it's so small, it barely has a difference. Rocket launcher gets rid of the delay and spams the entire screen. Shotgun gets rid of the delay and spams the entire screen. How is that fair? Well, most would say damage per pellet makes up for it, but does it really? You're cramming twice the damage into one second, and if that were PB, that would finish the opponent. While Rev, on the other hand, would have no difference. Rifle would also have no difference. A rocket launcher would get increased damage, and a larger target area. The two guns primarily effected by RS is rocket launcher and shotgun. RS unbalances the game for the other two weapons, but balances shotgun and rocket launcher onto a higher level. Most would consider it still fair, if those two weapons for higher levels. The fact that shotguns spray a large area, with increased damage as the RS doubles the damage makes it unfair because 1)damage is overly increased, getting rid of the weakness that shotguns don't hurt enough from afar 2)delay is decreased, making fighting back directly nearly impossibly as you cannot stay in one spot too long else they'll get two pumps into you. Same goes for rockets, but not so much. The fact that the users hurt themselves, and the traveling rate of the bullet keep it considerably balanced. For those of you who say I'm flaming RS because I can't do it, think again. For those who still think that RS is pro, prove it. Last edited by Diamons Shadow; 03-04-2007 at 02:44 PM.

03-03-2007, 11:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Technician Gunzfactor Fan Writer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: AU Posts: 1,989 Technician's GamerBio	Re: How is RS pro? You can't deny that it's effective.

03-03-2007, 11:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
Julian Gunzfactorian Commando Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,077 Julian's GamerBio	Re: How is RS pro? Its pro if you know hot to use it well. __________________

03-03-2007, 11:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
~~Diamons Shadow~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2,775 Diamons Shadow's GamerBio	Re: How is RS pro? Effective, but at what price? RS kills, but so do hacks.

03-03-2007, 11:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
Technician Gunzfactor Fan Writer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: AU Posts: 1,989 Technician's GamerBio	Re: How is RS pro? Hacks are banned. As for RS, well, it's kind of accepted.

03-03-2007, 11:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
TheJackOfAllTrades Gunzfactorian Commando Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,774	Re: How is RS pro? Its a move. In my opinion, each and every move, if used effectively, can be pro. As much as I don't like the fact that RS is making this game into "who can spam shotties fastest?", its pro when used by the right person.

03-04-2007, 04:02 AM	#7 (permalink)
lentan Gunzfactorian Guardian Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,018 lentan's GamerBio	Re: How is RS pro? i voted yes i like rs but I DONT USE RS at all... So what.. I LOVE wasting people's shots. Funny to see 1v1 matches where a person runs out of ammo. Fifty shots. Wasted. Coz of rs. I cannot stress enough how techniques alone WILL NOT get you kills. __________________ You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villian. Ign: bushytail

03-04-2007, 04:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
Hymnosi Gunzfactorian Postcount Demi-God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Fort Knox (srsly) Posts: 8,626 Hymnosi's GamerBio	Re: How is RS pro? I good dodger will beat a good aimer if they know what they are doing. Love thy lag. __________________

03-04-2007, 04:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
BoBinA76 Gunzfactorian Patriot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: England- By the Bullring Posts: 323	Re: How is RS pro? I used to think it was horrible and annoying and "noobish" but then i got fed up and started using it myself. Despite what you say, you will use it 1 day so theres no points moaning about it now. Also how can you possibly say that it takes away the skill? it takes alot more skill to press r at the end of every slashshot, rather than jsut doing it normally __________________ I delete my charachters when i get bored cos i can~

03-04-2007, 04:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
Technician Gunzfactor Fan Writer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: AU Posts: 1,989 Technician's GamerBio	Re: How is RS pro? Actually it doesn't take much skill.

03-04-2007, 05:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
x_ChaOs_x Gunzfactorian Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,040	Re: How is RS pro? IT should be more like "No, it's not fair. It makes it unfair for other gun users, killing the entire theory (and practical..) of BALANCE. " but swapshot already did it....kinda....Rs makes it worse There, i just repeated myself for the #$%#%#% time __________________ IGunz: Atom-masH :level 45-clan Saudades IJJI Gunz: x_Chaos_x : level 4x-clan Sphere Last edited by x_ChaOs_x; 03-04-2007 at 05:16 AM.

03-04-2007, 05:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
Technician Gunzfactor Fan Writer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: AU Posts: 1,989 Technician's GamerBio	Re: How is RS pro? RS is damn useful in 2 vs 2 Clan Wars especially. Just camp and keep RSing them while your team mate dbfs.

03-04-2007, 08:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
Krfstniper Gunzfactorian Soldier Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 661	Re: How is RS pro? It's not fair, and since when the rs has been discovered a lot of player just do reload shot without using kstyle, like archetype. __________________