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Old 01-09-2007, 01:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Players need to be educated on what lag is.

I've been booted for having a ping that is between 150-250. According to The Gamers Guide this ping range shouldn't impair the game in any way.

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* 0 - 50 Player is either playing on the server itself (listen server), on the same local area network (LAN) as the server, or has a very fast digital connection to the internet and is close to the server. A good player at this speed is almost godlike.

* 51 - 100 Player on the same network or has a digital connection with few "server hops." Lag is still negligible.
* 101 - 150 Player is using a digital connection, such as a dial-up (ISDN) or direct cable connection (T1, T3, ect). Lag is just beginning to appear, but the game continues to be relatively smooth. 56k modems may break into this range on occasion.

* 151- 250 A very good connection for a modem. The server is typically close in geography and low in number of "server hops." Lag is noticeable, but does not impair the game. This is the type of connection that modem players love. A good modem player will still dominate an average LPB at this speed.

* 251 - 350 Typical range for 33.6k and slower modems, and probably the worst connection speed a LPB will see when playing on the same continent as the server. Lag is clearly noticeable and alters the game. Adjustments need to made in timing for movement and firing. This is the world of the HPB.

* 351 - 450 Lag is so bad at this range that entire sections of data are lost as the server and player try to reconcile information. This "packet loss" can greatly effect a player's ability to perform. You may occasionally see the graphic of a phone jack to alert you that you are momentarily not receiving information from the server.

* > 451 You are merely a target for other players. Packet loss is typically so bad at this speed that you may find that the computer will not respond to your input for several seconds. Here is the typical scenario: another player enters the room and you press fire and try to move out of the way. Your character merely stands there as the other player kills it. You respawn and then your character suddenly starts to fire its weapon wildly and runs into a pool of lava.
My ping range is usually 150-250 if I am playing against people from North America and Europe. I can get ping of 50-120 if I am playing with people from Australia and New Zealand.

Anyways do you guys think that there should be a section on the site about the ping times on GunZ section at Ijji?
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Old 01-09-2007, 01:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Players need to be educated on what lag is.

I personally think 150~250 ping is considerable high.
I BF anyone to death who has over 200.
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Old 01-09-2007, 04:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Players need to be educated on what lag is.

From here?

By the way, pings in Gunz are player-to-player, not player-to-server.
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Old 01-09-2007, 04:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Players need to be educated on what lag is.

I guess YOU need to be educated on Gunz ping system, since anything over 50 doesn't even register as a hit if they're moving, 150 is just random shooting to TRY and hit them.
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Old 01-09-2007, 04:45 AM   #5 (permalink)
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We lag, and are hated for it

There is nothing we can do

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Old 01-09-2007, 04:45 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Players need to be educated on what lag is.

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From here?

By the way, pings in Gunz are player-to-player, not player-to-server.
Darn, beaten again *shakes fist*

But yea, that wall of text is for player to server connections (proper servers)
Since this is peer to peer, there is a vast amount of time limit in which the commands (actions, animations etc) are sent from 1 user to the other.
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Old 01-09-2007, 04:52 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: Players need to be educated on what lag is.

I attempt to kick anyone over 120 ping, les they're friendly.
I'll vote Yes for anyone from 80+ though, les they're friendly.

If you lag, get a better internet connection before you play GunZ, find people closer in your area to play with, or just be so dang friendly that people want you there. Lagless strategies (i.e. not moving much/running on your part) will have a lot people accept you regardless of the lag.
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Default Re: Players need to be educated on what lag is.

Sorry but all those factors are based on a decent server and probably a different game. This game is pvp, not the server. +the servers here are so terrible the description for the 250+ matches these servers supposedly ''50'' ping.

Sorry but you also need to be educated.
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:08 AM   #9 (permalink)
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gamers guide.

lol

anyone who needs a guide to game isnt a gamer at all.
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gamers guide.

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anyone who needs a guide to game isnt a gamer at all.
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Default Re: Players need to be educated on what lag is.

if your below 200 your fine with me
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Default Re: Players need to be educated on what lag is.

You say gamers should be...
I say I don't give a f*** about the players.
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:29 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Default Re: Players need to be educated on what lag is.

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I personally think 150~250 ping is considerable high.
I BF anyone to death who has over 200.
Same... I actually find the lag quite very visible at 150+

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gamers guide.

lol

anyone who needs a guide to game isnt a GOOD gamer at all.
You kind sir get the win. But fixed for truth!

To the thread starter, honestly, you need to get your facts straight. The lag changes a lot from game to game, where did you get that guide from? Age of empires?? This is a FPS, if you go into pro rooms at CSS with 200 ping they won't even let you breathe, immediate kick, so yeah, the intention counts, all good, but not accurate info. LOL!
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Default Re: Players need to be educated on what lag is.

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I've been booted for having a ping that is between 150-250. According to The Gamers Guide this ping range shouldn't impair the game in any way.



My ping range is usually 150-250 if I am playing against people from North America and Europe. I can get ping of 50-120 if I am playing with people from Australia and New Zealand.

Anyways do you guys think that there should be a section on the site about the ping times on GunZ section at Ijji?
150-250 is HIGH. Over 50 ping is HARD to aim.

Listen. Ping DOES matter. It's like time travel. IE if you'd have 250 ping to me, and I'd be shooting you with THE PERFECT 30 PING HEADSHOTS, you'd be already behind me and I'd be shooting a wall.
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Default Re: Players need to be educated on what lag is.

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From here?

By the way, pings in Gunz are player-to-player, not player-to-server.
Exactly. This is a guide for player-to-server games, not player-to-player.

Which means that on the SERVER it is recorded that you are still in the position you were 2 seconds ago, lets say you have 200 ping, your position is not where it is on your screen, but on the server's screen instead, which is where you were 2 seconds ago.

Player-to-Player means that what the PLAYER sees is where he is right now, and you SEE where he was 2 seconds or ago, or w/e the time span is, but the server says that he has moved to a different position in the 2 second or w/e ping they have time span.
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