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Old 09-29-2007, 02:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default This game is all about exploits

It's true. Even E-Stylers need to "exploit" once in a while (like wall-cancelling).

Now, I'm not advocating or suggesting any changes to the game, but I just wanted to see what players thought of the game. You guys are really playing one big poorly programmed glitch-fest.

Now I'll be honest. I suck really bad, but I love K-Style. The glitches in this game can really make for some fun matches, and to master the game takes a lot of skill, whether you choose to practice a glitch style or play straight up E-Style against glitchers, both take a lot of know how and practice.

But with things such as "sky block" and then "sky break" don't you think it's getting out of hand? I was reading the style guide and this is where I stopped and thought to myself that this is retarded. Sure K-Style and all that is a nice side effect of glitches and exploiting but when something like massive starts becoming unblockable and then another glitch to counter that and another glitch to counter THAT, when's it going to stop? How retarded will it be if one day we have to do sky sky sky breaks version 3 where we have to turn 36000 degrees to pull off a massive?

My example is kind of stupid and corny, but it gets the point across. I don't want this game to turn into a CS clone. I can go play Source or 1.6 whenever I want. I also don't want K-Style to be patched or fixed and go away but I still think the flaws of this game are pretty ridiculous.

Lastly, I want to say this is a great game regardless, because it's free, and I know I couldn't program anything so I shouldn't really be talking.
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Old 09-29-2007, 03:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It's true. Even E-Stylers need to "exploit" once in a while (like wall-cancelling).

Now, I'm not advocating or suggesting any changes to the game, but I just wanted to see what players thought of the game. You guys are really playing one big poorly programmed glitch-fest.

Now I'll be honest. I suck really bad, but I love K-Style. The glitches in this game can really make for some fun matches, and to master the game takes a lot of skill, whether you choose to practice a glitch style or play straight up E-Style against glitchers, both take a lot of know how and practice.

But with things such as "sky block" and then "sky break" don't you think it's getting out of hand? I was reading the style guide and this is where I stopped and thought to myself that this is retarded. Sure K-Style and all that is a nice side effect of glitches and exploiting but when something like massive starts becoming unblockable and then another glitch to counter that and another glitch to counter THAT, when's it going to stop? How retarded will it be if one day we have to do sky sky sky breaks version 3 where we have to turn 36000 degrees to pull off a massive?

My example is kind of stupid and corny, but it gets the point across. I don't want this game to turn into a CS clone. I can go play Source or 1.6 whenever I want. I also don't want K-Style to be patched or fixed and go away but I still think the flaws of this game are pretty ridiculous.

Lastly, I want to say this is a great game regardless, because it's free, and I know I couldn't program anything so I shouldn't really be talking.
err... how long have you been playing?

It's been like this since Gunz was first created.
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Everyone has the same (dis)advantage, so it's all good.
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks for the amazing, shiny, and brand new news! You can go crawl back under your rock now! Also, tl;dr.
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 09-29-2007, 07:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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This game would have died years ago without exploits.
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:47 AM   #8 (permalink)
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They aren't "exploits" anymore anyway. MAIET has said so themselves that weapon cancelling is officially a part of Gunz....and that's the "exploit" you're talking about.
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:51 AM   #9 (permalink)
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It used to be disowned and now its accepted, havented you seen the trailer to IJJI guns with people chasing KSTYLE
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:21 AM   #10 (permalink)
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This game is all about flaming each other.
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:29 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Nerf shotguns, get rid of daggers and kodachis, done.
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Old 09-30-2007, 02:26 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Most of the things aren't even exploits. You don't understand how Koreans and Japanese program their games. A LOT of games you cancel out of animations. Even the old school ones.

The only reason this game stays balanced is because the other person can do the exact same thing right at you. Unlike Marvel vs Capcom where some characters get raped or SSBM where Fox or Sheik would destroy low tiers at high play.

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Also one more thing.

Sky blocking helps. You're supposed to read the opponent will they block up? Will they block down? A LOT of players just block up and I massive them all the time. Because their predictable.

Same thing when your tech chasing in SSBM. ;] You just don't have an advanced understand of video games. So you think everything you press and do is a glitch and it sucks.
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K-Style is like the prodical son that comes back to his father and slaps him in the face.
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How retarded do you have to be to not understand that glitches are not invented, but discovered, and that our imagination has no bearing on the nature of the glitch itself?

Which means unless you have anything other than wistful speculation, don't try pulling predictions out of your shebs. There are only so many massive strike techniques. If it looks like it's been discovered to hell and back, it might actually just stay that way.

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No offense but that's osik. If you're going to tell me that the entire community is happy about having to conform to swords and shotguns then... well osik.

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I think you're higher up on on the "Stuff that needs to be removed" list.
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