Hackers outsmarting us? NEW IDEA

Lunasly · 03-21-2007, 04:47 PM

You log in and your in your clan channel. You ask one of your fellow members to clan war and they happily agree. You guys meet in your clan channel and begin and invite to clan war with a clan. You are waiting for a clan when a 2 v 2 request pops up and you and your friend are about to accept it. After a short moment, your on the battle field and are about to fight, but what's this? Oh! spawn hack.

You laugh at them saying that both you and your teammate have anti-hack. Now the thing is, what if they are smart hackers? They have 2 options. They can either follow you around re spawning when they need health or ammo and wait until you die. Or they can go AFK with spawn lock on. Now you will be sitting there bored out of your mind and cannot go AFK because there is a chance they may come back and kill you.

There is where a new idea comes into play. If any sort of hacking occurs during the game, ether it be rockets flying out of you or rapid sword slashes and even a simple spawn during the middle of play, the hackers will get crashed. I know Waryas can do this, but he can make it so people do not use the crash at their advantage (Not allowing the user to crash whoever), but to automatically crash the hacker once a hacking attempt has been detected by the Anti Hack program.

This way, it's impossible for hackers to win. I hope it won't be too much work, and maybe we can all donate a little something to Waryas for this contribution (I got ($3 CAD :P).

What are your opinions on this? Are there flaws? Would it help you?

EyeAMFast · 03-21-2007, 04:50 PM

Summarizing..

Add A Hack Attempt Message Into The .dll For Anyone That Is Attempting To Use A Hack..

Causing Them To Close Gunz.

The End.

Nayruu · 03-21-2007, 04:50 PM

i dunno if you can do this, it would be a d/c hack [which i thought got patched]. and the hack only ignores the player [client sided], to them they are hacking as usual.

edit: err gameguard sends the hacking attempt message i think.

Lunasly · 03-21-2007, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nayruu

i dunno if you can do this, it would be a d/c hack [which i thought got patched]. and the hack only ignores the player [client sided], to them they are hacking as usual.

edit: err gameguard sends the hacking attempt message i think.

I remember Waryas saying that he could still D/C people after the patch by using his DLL, not the whisper way.

Xellros · 03-21-2007, 04:54 PM

What if the hacker simply presses F11 and sacrifices an account just to get rid of yours? I mean from what I understand Anti-Hack is still HACKING after-all. The hacker can always just mplvl himself another char.

peaceofpi · 03-21-2007, 04:58 PM

What if the hacker simply presses F11 and sacrifices an account just to get rid of yours?

What evidence will he have? The replay will go corrupt when they crash, and there's no proof you did it.

~~SsYou~~ · 03-21-2007, 05:01 PM

^ So true, good idea.. Hope waryas make's it although a new one would be needed everypatch and would need to be made for each hack.dll released i guess, so it would be one big anti hack to make every patch.. :S

Admiral Awesome (115 votes) · 03-21-2007, 05:02 PM

It's wayyy to risky for Waryas to add something like that.

It's been suggested to him before btw.

Ginga · 03-21-2007, 05:36 PM

If he does recieve money, he breaking teh law!

Admiral Awesome (115 votes) · 03-21-2007, 05:38 PM

Not if we give him gifts of appreciation for hard work.

*wink*

Ginga · 03-21-2007, 05:40 PM

Ahh yes
*wink wink*

Hands Waryas a set of german spoons... I figured these gifts would be like at a wedding?

Nayokia · 03-21-2007, 05:54 PM

When you spawn hack, even though your alive you appear to be dead to the game. So when the hacker dies once, all your team has to do is stay alive, and you will win.

thats why when I play attack and defend we win even though the hacker re-spawns. So theory would mean it would be exactly the same for clan wars.

~~vvaryas05~~ · 03-21-2007, 06:30 PM

I can crash individual players now.
But i don't think i'll implement it...

Elite16 · 03-21-2007, 07:44 PM

-_- , They need to stop all the hacks... I don't understand why non can have any skill and have to resort to hacking, Well LEEECHING. Just Make The Hacks Go Away!!!

x_ChaOs_x · 03-21-2007, 08:03 PM

PROBLEM:
How does the anti hack program know they are hacking automatically????

03-21-2007, 04:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
Lunasly Gunzfactorian Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 110 Lunasly's GamerBio	Hackers outsmarting us? NEW IDEA You log in and your in your clan channel. You ask one of your fellow members to clan war and they happily agree. You guys meet in your clan channel and begin and invite to clan war with a clan. You are waiting for a clan when a 2 v 2 request pops up and you and your friend are about to accept it. After a short moment, your on the battle field and are about to fight, but what's this? Oh! spawn hack. You laugh at them saying that both you and your teammate have anti-hack. Now the thing is, what if they are smart hackers? They have 2 options. They can either follow you around re spawning when they need health or ammo and wait until you die. Or they can go AFK with spawn lock on. Now you will be sitting there bored out of your mind and cannot go AFK because there is a chance they may come back and kill you. There is where a new idea comes into play. If any sort of hacking occurs during the game, ether it be rockets flying out of you or rapid sword slashes and even a simple spawn during the middle of play, the hackers will get crashed. I know Waryas can do this, but he can make it so people do not use the crash at their advantage (Not allowing the user to crash whoever), but to automatically crash the hacker once a hacking attempt has been detected by the Anti Hack program. This way, it's impossible for hackers to win. I hope it won't be too much work, and maybe we can all donate a little something to Waryas for this contribution (I got ($3 CAD :P). What are your opinions on this? Are there flaws? Would it help you?

03-21-2007, 04:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
EyeAMFast Gunzfactorian Commando Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: FL Posts: 2,604 EyeAMFast's GamerBio	Re: Hackers outsmarting us? NEW IDEA Summarizing.. Add A Hack Attempt Message Into The .dll For Anyone That Is Attempting To Use A Hack.. Causing Them To Close Gunz. The End. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbaQaIgLIcIBoom SlashShot Bitch

03-21-2007, 04:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
Xellros Gunzfactorian Soldier Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 714 Xellros's GamerBio	Re: Hackers outsmarting us? NEW IDEA What if the hacker simply presses F11 and sacrifices an account just to get rid of yours? I mean from what I understand Anti-Hack is still HACKING after-all. The hacker can always just mplvl himself another char. __________________ Level 68

03-21-2007, 04:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
peaceofpi Gunzfactorian Hero Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,653	Re: Hackers outsmarting us? NEW IDEA What if the hacker simply presses F11 and sacrifices an account just to get rid of yours? What evidence will he have? The replay will go corrupt when they crash, and there's no proof you did it. __________________ Lani&Pop=BFF

03-21-2007, 05:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
~~SsYou~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 17 SsYou's GamerBio	Re: Hackers outsmarting us? NEW IDEA ^ So true, good idea.. Hope waryas make's it although a new one would be needed everypatch and would need to be made for each hack.dll released i guess, so it would be one big anti hack to make every patch.. :S

03-21-2007, 05:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
Admiral Awesome (115 votes) Gunzfactorian Commando Tournaments Won: 1 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,292 Admiral Awesome (115 votes)'s GamerBio	Re: Hackers outsmarting us? NEW IDEA It's wayyy to risky for Waryas to add something like that. It's been suggested to him before btw. __________________ Give me or give me death! GunZ: ^1Sparta - N/A - 2x \| Belgianboy - N/A - 67 S4 League: Admiral - N/A - ? GMS: AdmAwesome (F/P) - Hypnotiq - 5x

03-21-2007, 05:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ginga Gunzfactorian Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Manchester, England [EU] Posts: 1,550	Re: Hackers outsmarting us? NEW IDEA If he does recieve money, he breaking teh law! __________________ CoD5 SUCKS!

03-21-2007, 05:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
Admiral Awesome (115 votes) Gunzfactorian Commando Tournaments Won: 1 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,292 Admiral Awesome (115 votes)'s GamerBio	Re: Hackers outsmarting us? NEW IDEA Not if we give him gifts of appreciation for hard work. wink __________________ Give me or give me death! GunZ: ^1Sparta - N/A - 2x \| Belgianboy - N/A - 67 S4 League: Admiral - N/A - ? GMS: AdmAwesome (F/P) - Hypnotiq - 5x

03-21-2007, 05:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ginga Gunzfactorian Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Manchester, England [EU] Posts: 1,550	Re: Hackers outsmarting us? NEW IDEA Ahh yes wink wink Hands Waryas a set of german spoons... I figured these gifts would be like at a wedding? __________________ CoD5 SUCKS!

03-21-2007, 05:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
Nayokia Gunzfactorian Commando Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,522	Re: Hackers outsmarting us? NEW IDEA When you spawn hack, even though your alive you appear to be dead to the game. So when the hacker dies once, all your team has to do is stay alive, and you will win. thats why when I play attack and defend we win even though the hacker re-spawns. So theory would mean it would be exactly the same for clan wars. __________________

03-21-2007, 06:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
~~vvaryas05~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Spam Forum Posts: 3,316 vvaryas05's GamerBio	Re: Hackers outsmarting us? NEW IDEA I can crash individual players now. But i don't think i'll implement it...

03-21-2007, 07:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
Elite16 Gunzfactorian Patriot Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Georgia , USA Posts: 361	Re: Hackers outsmarting us? NEW IDEA -_- , They need to stop all the hacks... I don't understand why non can have any skill and have to resort to hacking, Well LEEECHING. Just Make The Hacks Go Away!!! __________________

03-21-2007, 08:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
x_ChaOs_x Gunzfactorian Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,040	Re: Hackers outsmarting us? NEW IDEA PROBLEM: How does the anti hack program know they are hacking automatically???? __________________ IGunz: Atom-masH :level 45-clan Saudades IJJI Gunz: x_Chaos_x : level 4x-clan Sphere