Dagger vs. BF/Turtle

[RPGoof]

I've got a little alt dude "I Use Hacks" that I play D-style on and I've encountered a problem... only once, but I know it'll happen again.
I was playing Atk/Def the other day and I was me, the daggerer and a k-style dude duking it out in the mansion hall. He decided to turtle and so then I lunged him and he countered it and then got a quick PB and got me dead right then and there. Any D-stylers or K-stylers who've seen the technique now of anything that can counter the turtle? Instafall lunge or anything?

Another problem is when I go head-on with a BF spammer guy and dagger really has no way that I know of to counter it o_o

[Noric]

Use the search button.

I'll find it if you want.

Best imo is blocktap or dagger gatling.

[Asierid]

Block Tap...

Strike at said block while either looking down, or turn the camera sharply as you hit. It gives them the massive without you getting recoiled.

Learn to love it, you will be using it alot.

EDIT: Or back off and shoot the feet. >.>;

[Noric]

Also try elunge..

Edit: Yeah.. if you can use guns don't rely on getting close to turtle.

[Asierid]

ELunge sometimes results in a shot to the ass or the face if they safe fall though. D:

Actually, now that I think about it; Dag Machine would be pretty good for those just standing there and blocking.

[Noric]

Originally Posted by Asierid

ELunge sometimes results in a shot to the ass or the face if they safe fall though. D:

Actually, now that I think about it; Dag Machine would be pretty good for those just standing there and blocking.

Yeah but how many idiots know how to Dag machine.

Oh and elunge would be for more melee oriented stuff.

[Sharpy]

lunge tap xD

[Ziwo]

block tap or lunge tap



basic stuff, look down while your stabbing so you do not get flinched when he counters it. back off once you hear the Ping sound and so so

[aoshima]

Stab then dash sideways away from the enemy REALLY fast.

[Asierid]

Originally Posted by Noric

Yeah but how many idiots know how to Dag machine.

Oh and elunge would be for more melee oriented stuff.

>.>

Touche. They should still learn it. D;

EDIT:

Originally Posted by aoshima

Stab then dash sideways away from the enemy REALLY fast.

Unless you turn the turn the camera quick/Look down; it won't work. Still get recoiled in that case...

[Noric]

Lunge tap works unless they are used to it.. most people aren't at this point. But then again that leaves you relying on mrb or decent timing... which don't credit many to have.

[RPGoof]

Hurray for lots of responses!

[Noric]

Well I am the most active forum troll atm(I believe) so yeah.. D style questions can get answered.

Btw.. for the rep did we need to post methods... or literally teach you directly how to apply?(I'm trying to manage getting a sword in a week... so yeah I'm a rep whore.. sorry.)

[Kiedo]

Block Tap for Turtle. Lunge Tap for BF.

[ect301fps]

Block tap on a turtle and if they're stupid and massive, blast 'em. I'm not so good directly fighting a BF, so I just back off and hit them with a rocket.

edit: Lunge tap works good too.