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Old 04-07-2006, 02:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default This will clear up what has happened around the Bug Free Coat

First, I would like to appologize.
I found about Arya person now.

Let me explain what has happened.

Jeamster, Vash, k11ld3z16n3r, Sonblade got the Bug Free for helping me with the clan closing bug.
Also, Enchanting got his Bug Free for helping me with other stuffs.
Things start from here.
Arya Varwin, an iGunz user, wants to have the Bug Free so bad.
She finds and contacts all the people who has received the item from me.
Jeamster agrees to trade his account with Arya's offer.
I found out and deleted Jeamster's Bug Free Coat.

Now, Arya contacts Enchanting, and offers trade.
Enchanting accepts the trade on March 31.
I found this out today by checking both their IP addresses.
I took Enchanting's Bug Free Coat, and banned Arya's account.

I see that people are going crazy around the bug free coat because premium items are not released in iGunz yet.

I appologize for making mistake. I appreciate the help of those people who found out about the situation earlier than me.

And...
People, it is against the rules to trade accounts.
Read the Article 13 of the User Agreement of GUNZ.
I did not ban Jeamster nor Enchanting this time since I did not know about the condition myself.
However, from now on, account trade will result in ban.
Even an attempt may result in user restriction depending on the progress of the attempted trade.

What a day...
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Old 04-07-2006, 02:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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HHHHHAAAAAAHHHHHHHHA LOl, ty Guntrix
I was right about the arya thingie
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Old 04-07-2006, 02:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Jee... Jeamster isn't smart at all If i had an bug free coat i will never trade the accounts
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Old 04-07-2006, 02:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: This will clear up what has happened around the Bug Free Coat

Thanks for the info, this clears things a lot. People really go crazy when they see a coat like that Bug Free in iGunZ.

"Remember kids, trade your account somebody and I'll eat it."

I think that some (95%) don't even read the User Article when installing games. Morons.
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Old 04-07-2006, 02:28 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm glad that you are dedicated to your job. But don't forget to balance it out with a good rest, guntrix.
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Old 04-07-2006, 02:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: This will clear up what has happened around the Bug Free Coat

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Originally Posted by AryaVarwin
First of all Guntrix, you have things a bit wrong, though it's a nice twist on what really happened.

Actually with Jeamster, I did contact, but we never ended up trading anything, though he did let me use his account for a short time.

And with Enchanting, I saw them on, said "Hey, want to trade the coat?" They didn't want it, and simply gave me the account because I could put it to better use.

The account can be banned, it is fine. But you should definitely get the facts of the matter straight before trying to pass them off as verbatum.
You were on both their accounts.
You probably didn't have much time to use Jeamster's cuz I found out quickly.
But you were on Enchanting's account since March 31.
This gives enough idea of trade.
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Old 04-07-2006, 02:41 AM   #7 (permalink)
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actually Arya, taking in what you said, I think his facts are straight. lol Infact, I can't believe you bothered posting. Jeamster letting you use his account, violation of the agreement anyway, isn't it? Enchanting agreeing to trade, again violation of the agreement YOU ACCEPTED. So really... You have no grounds to stand on. I'd advise you delete that post, and I'll delete this one. Simple And seriously... Don't take it out on Guntrix, he's doing his job, and doing it well.
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Old 04-07-2006, 02:43 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Isn't it just amazing how someone involved came in and replied shortly after this topic was posted?
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Old 04-07-2006, 02:45 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Default Re: This will clear up what has happened around the Bug Free Coat

Well, you must remember, some of the top hackers also review this forums just to check out the updates on igunz and how they plan to battle this out.

Guntrix holds all the cards in the Gunny vs. Hacker battle but the hackers also know how to gather information.
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:32 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Why would someone sacrifice her/his own account just for a bug-free coat?! Trust me...it's not that good. It only attracts attention to people. ^_^
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Maybe cause you kinda took something you didn't deserve?
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:42 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Default Re: This will clear up what has happened around the Bug Free Coat

Haha you start chasing after this now, huh?
I don't get what you're trying to get from this.
You agree with that your account should be banned.
Anything else that you want? More Bug Free?
I tell you again since you still don't seem to get the idea.
Those two accounts were not given to you. Even if we put this like that, the fact that you tried to have access to those accounts for the bug free coat is so obvious. Remember? You did it twice. -_-
You don't seem to understand that the way you had their account was an obvious account transfer.
Account transfer is not permitted.
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"Hey, this is wrong, don't do this again please", Guntrix chooses to simply slap down punishment on something that isn't even against the rules.
I am not a teacher teaching an elementary/primary school.
You take responsibility for what you do.
Even if you didn't know about a rule/law, breaking one will still result in punishments.
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Truth of the matter is, Guntrix had his feelings hurt. I have seen the conversation between him and others(Jeamster), he was upset and he felt betrayed that he would do something nice for them, and they betrayed his trust. And so he takes it out on me.
Of course I'm hurt.
It was the first time to give out rewards to my users.
I was very excited about it to be honest.
Before that, all I could do for fans was playing with them, which I still do. ^_^;
However, giving them a reward item was totally different.
And...I did trust them. Actually I had no clue if they were going to give it to other person.
How could I not be hurt and feel betrayed?
Anyway, I didnot take it out on you.
I needed to do something about it, and what our staff told me to do at first was to ban both the giver and taker, and take back all the bug free coats.
I decided not to do so, and only took the Bug Free Coat from Jeamster.
Even after that, I played the game with Jeamster when we came across in the game.
There was no hard feeling left for both of us. At least for me. -_-;

But you, reached your hands to have an item which was given to others and also which was not meant for you to have.
I had to ban you.
I was told to ban all your accounts, and IP ban you.
I did not do it.
You still can play the game. Of course without the bug free coat.

Admit your faulse.
Regret what you did.
Be responsible.
Then move on.

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Old 04-07-2006, 03:47 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:52 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Default Re: This will clear up what has happened around the Bug Free Coat

Obviously, I'm not gonna put the whole User Agreement here.
But read.
Article 13 Restriction of the Utilization of Service

1. The Company may restrict the use of the service, or take other measures, such as, but not limited to, the suspension or deletion (retrieval) of the ID in the event that the user:
1) unrightfully utilizes the personal information, ID, password and/or other information of another person;
2) uses indecent language or makes insulting remarks despite receiving a warning to refrain from doing so;
3) is engaged in promotional or sales activities in order to profit from the service or the web site;
4) acts in such a way as may be likely to hinder the service;
5) poses a physical or mental threat to the safety and comfort of others, such as, but not limited to, teasing another (specific) user;
6) misrepresents oneself as the GM or as an employee of the Company;
7) modifies client programs of the 'GUNS' or hacks the server, and/or alters part or whole of the web site without securing prior admission therein, and permission thereto, from the Company;
8) reveals or sells personal information of another person, or any other information in violation of relevant privacy protection rules;
9) forms informal groups to the exclusion of others based on race, gender, religion, or any other cultural or social prejudice;
10) transfers or sells one’s account to a third party;
11) sells an item obtained from the service;
12) misuses, or takes advantage of, a bug in the program;
13) inserts or applies any content to the game or website that may infringe upon the copyright of a third party;
14) deliberately causes confusion among other users by creating an ID similar to that of the game operator;
15) employs insulting, degrading, or offensive language, or any language which is likely to remind other users of insulting, degrading, or offensive language, in the formation of his/her ID.

Yeah...What you did was wrong and against the rule.
Even from the common sense, you are not supposed to do such a thing.
Yeah, people trade their accounts in other games.
But not here in GUNZ.
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:57 AM   #15 (permalink)
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god shut up
because you're involved
its common sense
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