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Old 05-16-2007, 07:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default what do you thing of cloning

i thing that cloning has its advantages and disadvantages

advantages
  1. get organs to save people
  2. get to have fun when ur clone go's to school/work
  3. have a more blood in the blood bank
  4. higher lvl of production in factory's
disadvantages
  1. have to kill a nother person
  2. cant get it right in first shoot
  3. could not become the way we anted it to become
there would be meany more advantages and disadvantages but that all i can think of at this moment

tell me you'r views on cloning?
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I wouldn't mind another me, so long as it obeyed my every whim.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:31 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I guess it is bad. It is either morale or religious issue, aside of the benefits.

But, I dunno if cloning for food
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Old 05-17-2007, 10:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I am 100% against the use of cloning as a means to create a living person. I do however support stem cell research with the goal to clone organs, tissues, food, and plants/insects/animals. The two branches of stem cell research are Adult Stem Cell's, and Embryonic Stem Cells; both of which I support.
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Old 05-17-2007, 10:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If you had sex with your clone, would that be Gay or Masturbation?


But anyway, how would your clone feel? How would you feel if you're a clone? It would kind of suck. You're born into a world where you have no place and your life is already being used by someone else.
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:03 AM   #6 (permalink)
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You people blow the thought of cloning totally out of porportion.

You don't make a clone, the presto it comes out looking like you.

You have to make an egg with your exact DNA traits and then plant the egg inside a host and give birth to it. Then it grows up like it's "mother" or "father" and it should be just about identical.
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Old 05-18-2007, 01:34 AM   #7 (permalink)
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You have to make an egg with your exact DNA traits and then plant the egg inside a host and give birth to it. Then it grows up like it's "mother" or "father" and it should be just about identical.
Not necessarily. A lot of someone's physical appearance and personality is determined by the environment they grow up in. Will a person who never works out be buff due to genes? no. Will a person who always works out and excercises be a scrawn due to genes? no. If one person was the original, and recieved plenty of attention and cared deeply for, will he/she have the same personality as a clone who might by seen as second-rate? Heck no. Will two people who have different friends have completely or nearly-completely identical personalities? Negative.

Sure, they might be the same as you at the very beginning, but what suggests that things will stay that way?

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i thing that cloning has its advantages and disadvantages

advantages
get organs to save people
get to have fun when ur clone go's to school/work
have a more blood in the blood bank
higher lvl of production in factory's
disadvantages
have to kill a nother person
cant get it right in first shoot
could not become the way we anted it to become
there would be meany more advantages and disadvantages but that all i can think of at this moment

tell me your views on cloning?
This might not be appropriate, but I had a good laugh reading this.

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So, you think that a clone will be like a robot or a well-trained dog that does what you tell it to? Not a chance. A clone is an exact copy of you (in terms of basic characteristics). Cloned or not, he/she is still human, not a mindless drone there to take care of you. It is HIGHLY, HIGHLY likely that they will want to skip school and not work like you do. So, what happens then?

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higher lvl of production in factory's
Do you think that just because they are cloned, they will be inferior to you in intelligence and do nothing but work in secondary industries? Ridiculous. Your clone is just as likely as you to get a high-paying job and a good standard of living.
Higher level of production in factories? What makes you think that they will all have some weird compulsion to work in a factory? Seriously

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have to kill a nother person
No you dont... this is just wrong. Go do some more research.

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cant get it right in first shoot
What makes you think they we won't eventually advance far enough to get it in the first try?

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could not become the way we anted it to become
Looking by your post, the way you want them to turn out would be someone working in a relatively low-level job.
So lets say it turns out differently, and they make advances in engineering, medicine, etc... This is bad... how?
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Old 05-18-2007, 05:35 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Default Re: what do you thing of cloning

1000cranes im not saying that i would do this to a clone im just pointing out the facts and yes we could get a clone to do what we wanted them to do if we started training them from when they are born.

im not saying that we wont be able to get it right in one shot in the future im just saying that at the moment we cant get it right in one shot.

yes we will have to kill a another person because clones are people to and if we use them for things like organs we cant take them out and still keep them alive

the one about the clone going to work/school i do agree that that is stupid and i should have never said that

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You people blow the thought of cloning totally out of porportion.

You don't make a clone, the presto it comes out looking like you.

You have to make an egg with your exact DNA traits and then plant the egg inside a host and give birth to it. Then it grows up like it's "mother" or "father" and it should be just about identical.
Hamburger that is not true u dont have to put it inside a womens body it is easy to simulate the production out side of a womens body. we do have the capabilities to do that.
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Old 05-18-2007, 01:05 PM   #9 (permalink)
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yes we will have to kill a another person because clones are people to and if we use them for things like organs we cant take them out and still keep them alive
By the words you used to describe this process; I get the feeling you are referring to something like what was shown in "The Island" (A movie about a company who manufactures clones on a Island who are later used as organ donors.) While what this movie depicts would be presumably possible; there is no reason to use that method, because there is no need to create the whole person to get organs.

What are stem cells? Stem cells are cells that have the potential to grow into the different cell types of an organism.

Where do they come from? There are two major sources of stem cells. The first is the blastocysts which is formed during the early stages of a fertilized embryo. The second is found throughout the systems of a developed organism(You and Me).

Are stem cells all the same? No, stem cells are classified by their potency level, or how many cell types they can become. The stem cells found within a blastocysts are pluripotent meaning they can become any of the cell types of the organism; however, only totipotent stem cells can become a fetus, which means pluripotent stem cells cannot develop into a functional organism. The stem cells found within a developed organism, also known as adult stem cells, are multipotent which limits them to cell types of a certain tissue type.

What can we do with stem cells? We can learn about the human development process. We can learn about why certain malfunctions occur and possibly fix them. Through therapies stem cells can be used to replace damaged or diseased cells. Scientists also wish to develop means to grow the individual organs in a artificial environment for use as transplants.

Is it ethical to do these things? The use of adult stem cells has no ethical opposition. The embryonic process is considered to be murder by some, because removing the stem cells kills the embryo which they consider to be a potential human being with our rights. Don't forget the stage at which the "being" is destroyed is not considered life; the argument is that if not disturb, in time it will become life; Potential Life.

The destruction of the potential human being is some peoples’ only problem with embryonic stem cell research. Currently abortion is legal in the United States. First, this destruction of the embryo is at the stage where the being is considered life. Secondly, these aborted fetuses have no chance of life, but they can be used in research. Scientists are able to retrieve stem cells from the them. If these fetuses are destined for destruction then why not use them for research.

Another reasonable source of embryos are those left over from In-Vitro-Fertilization clinics. These embryos were intended for reproduction, but were never used. Over time they are thrown out. Why not use these embryos for research? The argument of potential being no longer applies. So why not?

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Cloning = good imo.

We wont find ourselves decoding the human sequence(or whatever they do to actually find out how to properly clone a human) any time soon, but cloning limbs and organs seems pretty practical. The most recent(successful) organ cloning they did was a gallbladder if I recall correctly.

The way the process went was taking DNA from that persons gallbladder and putting it in a solution in a petrie dish.(not any real specific solution. Just to sustain the organ) They added nutrients to it, and the thing formed a cyst over itself. After irritating the cells over a period of 3 months, it grew into a fully sized gallbladder.

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Unethical. Clone or not, they're still a human being. This would be like keeping a person as a pet or a slave. Deeply controversial at best, and will most likely never be allowed even if it was possible.

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I told you to go read up on cloning, moron. You don't need the whole organ in order to clone something.
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What do I thing of cloning? Lol
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Not necessarily. A lot of someone's physical appearance and personality is determined by the environment they grow up in. Will a person who never works out be buff due to genes? no. Will a person who always works out and excercises be a scrawn due to genes? no. If one person was the original, and recieved plenty of attention and cared deeply for, will he/she have the same personality as a clone who might by seen as second-rate? Heck no. Will two people who have different friends have completely or nearly-completely identical personalities? Negative.

Sure, they might be the same as you at the very beginning, but what suggests that things will stay that way?
I was more, or less aiming towards their physical traits at birth.
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^ Then I wasted five minutes typing that up
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Too many religious people would prevent this...

"Oh it doesn't have a soul!" "It's against God!" and all that, I mean I'm neutral, if it happens and they don't have a sould...Oh well nothing we can do.


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