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Old 05-14-2007, 07:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Why im lossing my faith in religion

1.Jesus was jewish so that meens diffrent religeions are interperating things diffrent then it is

2. Most important God didnt write the bible its mans "interpretation" of the bible

3. We have no real proof that someone didnt make up the "bible as a book Highly Doubt"


I am Christain but if any religion seemed logical it would be jewdism sicne jesus was jewish
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Old 05-14-2007, 07:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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1.Jesus was jewish so that meens diffrent religeions are interperating things diffrent then it is
He isn't jewish you dumb ass. Who told you that so I can slap the **** out of them
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Old 05-14-2007, 08:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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He isn't jewish you dumb ass. Who told you that so I can slap the **** out of them
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1.Jesus was jewish so that meens diffrent religeions are interperating things diffrent then it is

2. Most important God didnt write the bible its mans "interpretation" of the bible

3. We have no real proof that someone didnt make up the "bible as a book Highly Doubt"


I am Christain but if any religion seemed logical it would be jewdism sicne jesus was jewish
.... Words can't describe how stupid you are. No, I'm being serious, this has got to be one of the dumbest anti-religion rants I've ever seen in my lifetime. I am an Atheist, and I disapprove of your reason to stop believing in Christianity.

Edit: ajbtap23: Do you know anything about Judiasm?

Here:

- Jesus is Jewish. He is the Jewish prophet that makes the world good and stuff. At this point in time there are no "Christians"
- Jesus dies. Speculation arises. People either believe Jesus was God's son or they don't.

THIS IS WHERE THE SPLIT OCCURS. Jews believe Jesus wasn't God's son; Christians believe he was. Christianity derived from Judaism. It's actually what "Judaism" is supposed to be to Jesus, just subtract the arbitrary (in your case, at least) terminology.

Plus, 3 can be applied in reverse: We haveno real proof that Atheism is true. So long as a man in this day and age is presented the concept of religion, they believe in something. Christians believe there is a God. Atheists believe there is no God or form of higher deity.
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To be on the safe side, no religion = the best religion.
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.... Words can't describe how stupid you are. No, I'm being serious, this has got to be one of the dumbest anti-religion rants I've ever seen in my lifetime. I am an Atheist, and I disapprove of your reason to stop believing in Christianity.
Jesus you and flare are on my nuts. Now I see why you only have 1 sword. GG
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Jesus you and flare are on my nuts. Now I see why you only have 1 sword. GG
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A) So do you.
B) I don't care about honor nor does it matter.
C) The reason why I have 1 sword goes has its history. You know, back when you weren't here.
D) Most of the people who have more than 3 swords either cheat the system (e.g. yuna and ...uhhh, that other person, forgot his name rofl but he and yuna were the first to hit 5 swords and they both admitted to cheating at one point) or beg for it.
E) I am more respected now than you could ever wish to be with 100 swords, seeing as the honor system is arbitrary to actual forum respect.
F) You're best cropping my post because that bottom part was directed at OP. You're either paranoid or lazy.
Was that a direct flame to me or just telling me about your biography on Gzf?
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Flame, but whilst responding I edited my posted into a "biography" of me on GZF.

Anyway nice complex question w/ straw man/ad hominem attack. You make a wonderful debator!
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Flame, but whilst responding I edited my posted into a "biography" of me on GZF.

Anyway nice complex question w/ straw man/ad hominem attack. You make a wonderful debator!
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1.Jesus was jewish so that meens diffrent religeions are interperating things diffrent then it is

2. Most important God didnt write the bible its mans "interpretation" of the bible

3. We have no real proof that someone didnt make up the "bible as a book Highly Doubt"


I am Christain but if any religion seemed logical it would be jewdism sicne jesus was jewish

1. The jewish religion doesnt see jesus as its savior. Christianity does(hence the name, "christianity"). They believe he was a good man, but not the son of God.

2. God used the prophets as an outlet for his words. Everything in the bible is Gods word, not mans.

3. Clarify what your saying.
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2. God used the prophets as an outlet for his words. Everything in the bible is Gods word, not mans.
If that's true, then we shouldn't have different versions and variations of the bible.

That being said, I think it's pretty obvious that the bible has been altered, and I think it's very unlikely that a single copy remains that hasn't been altered in some way shape or form by man to suit his own beliefs. And that's assuming that God wrote the bible to begin with, which can never be assumed.

I think this guy has good reasons for questioning religion, he's just not really voicing his doubts in a very good way.
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2. Most important God didnt write the bible its mans "interpretation" of the bible


You have destroyed any basic knowledge of sentence construction in those words.

The bible is one of the oldest literacy works in the world besides b.c scrolls, and other various document.

Man wrote the bible based on their interpretation of jesus's work while he was well and alive. I believe the bible holds truth to it, people have even found prediction inside the bible itself, which a few to my knowledge, proved to be true.
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If that's true, then we shouldn't have different versions and variations of the bible.
The message is all the same, its just the wording that is different, due to the many translations. Do you think the same guy hand-copied every single copy of the bible or something?

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That being said, I think it's pretty obvious that the bible has been altered, and I think it's very unlikely that a single copy remains that hasn't been altered in some way shape or form by man to suit his own beliefs.
Again, due to the various translations. The message is ALL the same.

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And that's assuming that God wrote the bible to begin with, which can never be assumed.
And that's assuming that God didn't write the bible to begin with, which can never be assumed.
Also, you forgot to read.
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