The American Drug War

[Maus]

YouTube - Cowboy cop wants Drug War ended

YouTube - American Drug War trailer

And why it should be ended.

[Maus]

There's a reason i started this thread.

Open discussion about Americas drug war. I believe it should be ended, simply because of 3 reasons.

1-After 35 years of PROHIBITION, drugs are stronger, more numerous, and easier to get then they were when the war started. Therfore -> the war failed entirely in it's original goal, it's an unwinnable war and one that american taxpayers have paid over half a trillion tax dollars into, with no avail.

2-Prisons, the USA, out of every country in the world has the most prisoners per capita and the most prisoners period. the VAST majority of which are there for drug charges, and keeping them there costs about 29 thousand a year per inmate. More wasted taxdollars

3-The very concept of a war on mind-altering substances (minus alcohol, contradiction is rampent in the drug war), which humans have been taking for thousands upon thousands of years, is not only stupid, but illogical. We as humans, SEEK OUT these substances. we always have, and with the continueing drug war the criminals are creating more and more kinds of drugs, and we fight it to no avail.

4-The drug war is a war on people, not drugs, and it's the longest running mistake the US continues to back even after all these years of FAILURE.

It cant be won, and considering the alternatives to this drug war, it's a crime to keep it going.

Shut down the DEA,

end the drug war.

[Ashlyed]

And imagine the bright future we will live in, the drug free world.

A five years old toodler smoked a weed, or 11 years old is nicotine addict.

Oh yes, it would be wonderful

[etufo]

^Wonderful world indeed.

[Maus]

Originally Posted by Ashlyed

And imagine the bright future we will live in, the drug free world.

A five years old toodler smoked a weed, or 11 years old is nicotine addict.

Oh yes, it would be wonderful

In some cases, that's already happening.

Legalizing something doesn't nullify the negative aura it might have,

alcohol is legal and we hear all the time about drunk drivers and crashes as well as overdoses,

tobacco is legal and we hear about hundreds of thousands of people dying from cancer because of it's use (THE most dangerous thing you can do).

You're logic is flawed, legalizing it won't increase it's use. Just look at the swiss... Since taking control of these drugs instead of trying to stop them outright (never going to happen), violent crime, drug related crime, drug related overdoses, and everything that you would consider a negative aspect of drug use has gone down significantly since the swiss government started distributing it instead of drug dealers.

Go back and watch the videos, especially the second one. And you'll see you are dead wrong on ALL counts.


End the drug war,

Stop the madness.

[Hamburger]

Originally Posted by Maus

In some cases, that's already happening.

Legalizing something doesn't nullify the negative aura it might have,

alcohol is legal and we hear all the time about drunk drivers and crashes as well as overdoses,

tobacco is legal and we hear about hundreds of thousands of people dying from cancer because of it's use (THE most dangerous thing you can do).

You're logic is flawed, legalizing it won't increase it's use. Just look at the swiss... Since taking control of these drugs instead of trying to stop them outright (never going to happen), violent crime, drug related crime, drug related overdoses, and everything that you would consider a negative aspect of drug use has gone down significantly since the swiss government started distributing it instead of drug dealers.

Go back and watch the videos, especially the second one. And you'll see you are dead wrong on ALL counts.


End the drug war,

Stop the madness.

Why are you asking to end the drug war in an online gaming forum?

Do you really think that a DEA offical, or anyone affiliated with any type of drug investigation will visit this thread?
no.
Your logic is flawed.

[Maus]

Originally Posted by Hamburger

Why are you asking to end the drug war in an online gaming forum?

Do you really think that a DEA offical, or anyone affiliated with any type of drug investigation will visit this thread?
no.
Your logic is flawed.

Of course not you git... God are you dumb.

It's just for the sake of discussion.



And besides, the DEA will never end the drug war, asking them too is pointless, talking to them is pointless. It's the people that will.

[Hamburger]

Originally Posted by Maus

Of course not you git... God are you dumb.

It's just for the sake of discussion.



And besides, the DEA will never end the drug war, asking them too is pointless, talking to them is pointless. It's the people that will.

"end the drug war, stop the madness".

Unless my eyes deceive me, you just asked to end the drug war.

Plus, they won't stop the war on drugs, they want americans to think there doing something productive.

[xenomorph]

The point is to get people thinking about it, and ask why we should continue the drug war. Why would you bother to discuss anything if the people in power aren't going to listen? If you think that's valid then leave the discussion.

Especially in young people, the attractiveness of drugs isn't necessarily the effect it has on you, but the fact that it's "bad". Sort of a way to "stick it to the man". Take away the "ooh,bad" appeal to drugs, they will be viewed the same as cigarrettes or tar or cyanide. Poisons that people choose to consume. it's like suicide. You can't stop a person from killing himself, and you shouldn't.

Another major plus: I bet the largest income to the black market comes from drugs. Drug money has been used to buy guns, bombs, politicians, as well as financing terrorism. Legalizing it would put the money into the hands of people who can't put money into things like that (that is, if it isn't socialized). I believe if you were to take drug money out of black market budget, even just from america, the effects would be global

[Hamburger]

Originally Posted by xenomorph

The point is to get people thinking about it, and ask why we should continue the drug war. Why would you bother to discuss anything if the people in power aren't going to listen? If you think that's valid then leave the discussion.

Especially in young people, the attractiveness of drugs isn't necessarily the effect it has on you, but the fact that it's "bad". Sort of a way to "stick it to the man". Take away the "ooh,bad" appeal to drugs, they will be viewed the same as cigarrettes or tar or cyanide. Poisons that people choose to consume. it's like suicide. You can't stop a person from killing himself, and you shouldn't.

Another major plus: I bet the largest income to the black market comes from drugs. Drug money has been used to buy guns, bombs, politicians, as well as financing terrorism. Legalizing it would put the money into the hands of people who can't put money into things like that (that is, if it isn't socialized). I believe if you were to take drug money out of black market budget, even just from america, the effects would be global

Actually, the things that used to make the largest sum o fmoney on the black market were the diamonds african countries sold to western civilizations to get money to countinue their war effort.

But nether the less, drugs are bringing in a fat check. Afganistan is a large producer of heroin, and they sell it to buy assorted goods, and weapons to continue fights in the middle east.

The only way to end drugs in america, is to tackle the sources (ie., columbia (large cocaine producer) which we will not do.

[Maus]

Originally Posted by Hamburger

Actually, the things that used to make the largest sum o fmoney on the black market were the diamonds african countries sold to western civilizations to get money to countinue their war effort.

But nether the less, drugs are bringing in a fat check. Afganistan is a large producer of heroin, and they sell it to buy assorted goods, and weapons to continue fights in the middle east.

The only way to end drugs in america, is to tackle the sources (ie., columbia (large cocaine producer) which we will not do.

Lol, we HAVE been raiding the sources, but some sources are untouchable (such as afganhi heroine, for some people that's their only income, and to destroy the peoples lives there after liberating them is just out of the question).

Remember pablo escobar? He was taken down, and even so there is NO WAY to eradicate drugs. I mean hell, it only takes 20 minutes to set up a coke lab, and growing it aint really a science either (processing it is).

See the videos, the drug war has failed, and all it did was waste taxpayer money. In the 35 years it's been running. Half a trillion taxpayer dollars (remember money was worth more back then, so it's actually more then that), drugs are stronger, cheaper, and more available... Law enforcement officials are wasting time on drug busts rather then running down drunk drivers and chasing murderers, gang violence over the drug trade (along with people caught in the crossfire), and botched after botched DEA raids.


It's pointless, it's madness, it's a war on the people.

Not the drugs.

I highly suggest watching the videos, 12 minutes of your time and you will feel the same way i do.

[Puaaap Ikuji]

A friend with weed is a friend indeed. <---- true story