World War 2 - Japan

[Ailysa]

I've just started learning about World War 2, and I know a general idea of what Japan got up and how they conquered countries; and also their "ruthlessness" after watching the movie: Kokoda.

There's a question which has me bothering me for some time.

I've always wondered whether Japan see themselves today as the good-side, or the bad-side. Perhaps they only cover it briefly and don't exagerate that much of what they did in the war.

Since there are some Japanese in the GunZFactor community, I would also like to ask them on what they learn, and how they feel towards World War II.

Also with Germany, it wold be interesting to know what they too learn of World War 2 and that kind of stuff.

It's interesting to understand other countries and their POV.


-Ailysa

[Socks]

The movie of Pearl Harbor was pretty cool.

[aoshima]

My name on IjjiGunZ is HiroShima LOL
pro part of japan man
^ true dat!

[Shadow]

Most of Germany regretted the war. The only reason most people in Germany supported the war at the time was everyone who was opposed to the war would be killed by the Nazis.

[Stumpeh]

and Hitler was really good at gaining popularity through speeches

[LordShaft]

is anyone on gfz old enough to remember WWII?

[Koven]

The conquering side, even if they look cool, like romans, etc. are ALWAYS the bad side.

[Koven]

Originally Posted by LordShaft

is anyone on gfz old enough to remember WWII?

I VERY HIGHLY doubt it, I'm 22, and I am old in gunz community!

[Can'-Ka No Rey]

Originally Posted by Stumpeh

and Hitler was really good at gaining popularity through speeches

Hitler was high on X (or was it acid?) most of the time when he gave the speeches.

[Ashlyed]

If you allow me to brief you a little...

Lack of resources due to American trade restrictions left the Japanese with two choices either end expansionism or go to war with America, do bare in mind the japanese had no way of paying reparations to china demanded by the Americans in return for normal trade to resume.

Japan was a dictatorship in which the Emperor was a figurehead who acted at the behest of the Army generals, and was bent on conquering all of Asia in the same way that her partners, Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy had accomplished in Europe. Japan thought the US too soft and flabby to oppose her dreams of conquest and turned down offers of resumed trade in return for stopping her warlike aggressions. Her military masters chose not to, and led their country into ruin. Japan didn't need any provocation to wage war to steal anything it could. Citizens of her conquered territories became slaves who only existed to provide food and resources to the home islands. The Japanese weere very similar to the Nazis - they considered themselves superior to all others. They found out differently, just as Hitler and Mussolini did.

The Soviets (including Zhukov, the man often credited with winning the war against Germany) repelled the Japanese attack in Manchuria, Japan secretly abandoned plans to repeat the attack on the Soviets.

When Soviet spies learned of this it freed up many troops which could then be used for the counter-attack against the Nazis at Stalingrad, and therefore turned the tide of WW2.

The USSR had already started invading Japan when the surrender came but I believe it was only in the last decade that hostilities between Russia and Japan were "formally" ended.

There is also another reason: After WW1, The japanese gave a chance for the US and others for a bond between all asian and American-European countries. It was denied so this had them angry. Then the Attacks on Pearl harbour.


So, basically if you want to know more about war, watch movie about it

(such as Letter from Iwo Jima by Clint Eastwood)

[Malbodiensis]

apparently the germans are much more regretful and apologetic over the war than the japanese

[Ailysa]

Originally Posted by Shadow

Most of Germany regretted the war. The only reason most people in Germany supported the war at the time was everyone who was opposed to the war would be killed by the Nazis.

I don't agree with that. The Germans supported the Nazis because Hitler promised a 'Greater Germany' which would be stronger and superior to its foes. The Germans were humiliated from the Treaty of the Versailles and were hit the most from the Great Depression, as a result of having to make reparations to the Allies - so they favoured Hitler, as he promised an end totheir suffering and to make Germany great again.

Now, the question wasn;t about the history of Germany, but thanks Ashleyd for ur background information
I was just wondering what the Japanese or Germans learn, and how they think of themselves in the war, as in being the good or bad side. The question is said more in depth on the first post to be more clearer.

[Terraka]

The Japanese are probably regretful about WWII, but then again, after taking two Atomic bombs, of course they would.
Though it's debatable, the official statement for the use of the Atomic bombs were that they would cause minimum losses between the American and Japanese forces.
The war taught the world more of a lesson anyways; such as the reasons why the League of Nations failed.

[Maus]

Originally Posted by Koven

The conquering side, even if they look cool, like romans, etc. are ALWAYS the bad side.

If there was one war,

that would unify the world and destroy all that would turn us against each other,

that would be the single biggest crime AS WELL as bigest act of humanitarianism the world has ever seen.

[Firedauz]

We didn't regret anything about the war.
If it weren't for the atomic bombs, we would've succeeded to conquer up until Germany.