To Atheists

[Colby]

Yeah, ok I'm not looking to start a war, I just want a serious answer to this, ok now your on your deathbed, you know your going to die, now when you answer this I want "YOUR" perspective. Not that of an outsider. You close your eyes and die, what are you seeing then? Just a simple question, answer it.

The key thing is I want you to visualize this, not just respond, I want you to literally imagine being in that situation.

[Kiedo]

Anybody who thinks they know the answer to that question is seriously an egotistical moron. Atheists and Religious nuts alike.

Have you died? Have you spoken to someone who's died? Can you confirm 100% that what they told you was true or rather just lies to make you feel better? Are you insane for thinking dead people talk to you? All of these are more valid questions.

[LordShaft]

well.. i'm not dead so i wouldn't know. Well if i close my eyes.. i see my eyelids?

[Colby]

Originally Posted by Kiedo

Anybody who thinks they know the answer to that question is seriously an egotistical moron. Atheists and Religious nuts alike.

Have you died? Have you spoken to someone who's died? Can you confirm 100% that what they told you was true or rather just lies to make you feel better? Are you insane for thinking dead people talk to you? All of these are more valid questions.

Right, thats the point I'm trying to get across, anyone who says they can disprove Christianity is wrong (granted the same holds true for Christians/other beliefs). There is no proof, becuase when it comes down to it, we do not know enough about anything to accuratley label it, scientists only theorize and think that the apple is red, in reality noone knows what an apple or anything really is, so all I ask is that everyone stops trying to prove each other wrong, concrete proof is non-existant, that is not a what if question.

[LordShaft]

Apple:

The apple is a tree and its pomaceous fruit, of the species Malus domestica in the rose family Rosaceae. It is one of the most widely cultivated tree fruits. It is a small deciduous tree reaching 5-12 m tall, with a broad, often densely twiggy crown. The leaves are alternately arranged, simple oval with an acute tip and serrated margin, slightly downy below, 5-12 cm long and 3-6 cm broad on a 2-5 cm petiole. The flowers are produced in spring with the leaves, white, usually tinged pink at first, 2.5-3.5 cm diameter, with five petals. The fruit matures in autumn, and is typically 5-9 cm diameter (rarely up to 15 cm). The centre of the fruit contains five carpels arranged star-like, each carpel containing one or two (rarely three) seeds.

Wikipedia knows all

[Ashlyed]

Actually, there are two kinds of resurrection: by flesh or spirit.
You gotta pinpoint which one to discuss

[1000cranes]

Originally Posted by Ashlyed

Actually, there are two kinds of resurrection: by flesh or spirit.
You gotta pinpoint which one to discuss

Did your parents drop you on your head as a child? Often? Where do you see anyone talking about resurrection in any way? Go read the FIRST post in this thread.

Originally Posted by billionz

Yeah, ok I'm not looking to start a war, I just want a serious answer to this, ok now your on your deathbed, you know your going to die, now when you answer this I want "YOUR" perspective. Not that of an outsider. You close your eyes and die, what are you seeing then? Just a simple question, answer it.

Your dead, you don't see anything. Period.

[Ashlyed]

Originally Posted by 1000cranes

Did your parents drop you on your head as a child? Often? Where do you see anyone talking about resurrection in any way? Go read the FIRST post in this thread.

First post:

You close your eyes and die, what are you seeing then?

If I died already how do I post this without being revived first?
My previous post, if you could dechiper it carefully Mr.1000, suggested that whether you have returned back to earth after being:
1. Living dead soul
2. Zombie
3. Fully resurrected like Jesus Christ

Understand?

[1000cranes]

If I died already how do I post this without being revived first?
My previous post, if you could dechiper it carefully Mr.1000, suggested that whether you have returned back to earth after being:
1. Living dead soul
2. Zombie
3. Fully resurrected like Jesus Christ

Understand?

Quote from the thread maker:

Originally Posted by Billionz

Right, thats the point I'm trying to get across, anyone who says they can disprove Christianity is wrong (granted the same holds true for Christians/other beliefs). There is no proof, becuase when it comes down to it, we do not know enough about anything to accuratley label it, scientists only theorize and think that the apple is red, in reality noone knows what an apple or anything really is, so all I ask is that everyone stops trying to prove each other wrong, concrete proof is non-existant, that is not a what if question.

By this, you can clearly see the original intentions of the thread maker. The question in the first post is a rhetorical device that is meant to help you see his point of view. It is NOT asking on your opinion of what you would remember if you were resurrected.
Understand?
It is ironic how you tell me to carefully decipher the meaning of the post while completely missing the point of the thread.

Good game.

[Matt[CV]]

Who know's, you have to be in that situation to find out i would expect.

[Ashlyed]

Originally Posted by 1000cranes

Quote from the thread maker:



By this, you can clearly see the original intentions of the thread maker. The question in the first post is a rhetorical device that is meant to help you see his point of view. It is NOT asking on your opinion of what you would remember if you were resurrected.
Understand?
It is ironic how you tell me to carefully decipher the meaning of the post while completely missing the point of the thread.

Good game.

Messed up logic.

Anyway, what's your problem hmm? if you DO know anything about the topic thread maker has started, better put on YOUR ideas instead of giving.. unnecessary comments.

And why should I care about your post? If I do go offtopic, then let's the threamaker say directly to me, unlike some arrogant crap coming from nowhere throwing tantrum ( and curse me to response to the tantrums)

ANYWAY, at least I try to CONTRIBUTE.

Goodgame indeed.

[1000cranes]

Messed up logic.

No, its perfectly good logic. back it up with reasons or its null and void.

if you DO know anything about the topic thread maker has started, better put on YOUR ideas instead of giving.. unnecessary comments.

Already did both.

And why should I care about your post?

Never said you should. Where did that come from?

If I do go offtopic, then let's the threamaker say directly to me, unlike some arrogant crap coming from nowhere throwing tantrum ( and curse me to response to the tantrums)

ANYWAY, at least I try to CONTRIBUTE.

Lol. Now that you can't use any reason or sense, you try to make a personal attack based on nothing.

Smart guy.


Edit: Going to sleep now, I'll check back tommorow to see if one of the mods deleted all our posts or not.

[waterbuster]

Dead?

Walk back to your body, go to smithy and repair items.

[Nys]

Originally Posted by Billionz

Yeah, ok I'm not looking to start a war, I just want a serious answer to this, ok now your on your deathbed, you know your going to die, now when you answer this I want "YOUR" perspective. Not that of an outsider. You close your eyes and die, what are you seeing then? Just a simple question, answer it.

The key thing is I want you to visualize this, not just respond, I want you to literally imagine being in that situation.

You see nothing. By the laws of human biochemistry you see absolutely nothing.

The only paranormal phenomena I believe in, probably for the sake of my own sanity, is in reincarnation.

[Kiedo]

^ Reincarnation has the most evidence supporting it.

Reincarnation: Best Evidence - Page One