Good vs Evil

[LordShaft]

What is good and evil? Are they two distinct things, or are they merly a conflicting idea of an overall belif?

ex: Terriost attacks in the USA:
The us public would say that the people that blew up the world trade center are "evil". But they prolly thought that they were doing the right thing, therefor they SUA is evil and they are good in thier eyes.

So could the whole good vs evil thing just depend on ones point of view? Ying-yang shows that there will always be a little bit of evil in a world full of good and vice versa, but what i ask, could there be no good or evil? Just people with conflicting thoughts?

What do you think?

[Nys]

You make a valid point. It's in the eye of the beholder. Depending on one's own beliefs and thoughts we carry out decisions we believe to be helpful/valid while others would call us evil.

[Matt[CV]]

There is no good / evil.


/end thread.

[LordShaft]

can you really say that? Wouldn't some1 who is selfesh and left 200 people stranded on a island while he took the only 747 in a 500,000 mile radius be eviler then some1 who fixed the plane and took everyone safly home?

[NeonFlare]

It all depends on person since everyone sees world slightly different, ie. cultural things and such affect the way you look on objects.

Also people have different moral values and limits.
For example: someone might see downloading music from internet as viable way since he believes that record companies are ripping of far too much money etc. While others consider that as stealing.

This topic could be discussed in many ways with longer and better detailed examples, but I doubt many will bother to look deeper into these interesting things.

[xenomorph]

Well you still have to define good and evil, Whether or not it is contingent on perception.

But because the terrorists who blew up the twin towers thought their act was good and not evil most definately doesn't make the act any less evil. There IS a standard. Just because people have different opinions on the standard doesn't mean anything can be considered good or evil.

I myself would define good as something that protects people from harm and/or death, and bad would be something that promotes harm and/or death or causes harm and/or death.

Of course, what's good or bad is different from what's right or wrong.

[LordShaft]

PART II:

Then can people truly say that the "devil" is evil? Dose it think that it's doing the right thing? Mabye he's saving everyone and god tortures people

[Heidenreich6]

Good always triumphs.

Movies suck arse.

[Terraka]

There is no good or evil; everything is how you would see it and how you would deal with it. To classify things as "good" or "evil" is just ways we humans deal with things we don't truly understand fully.

[xenomorph]

"Good" Is what protects or heals human beings from harm. "evil" is what inflicts harm on others. No one cared to give a defenition, so i gave mine. grow some balls people. don't take the easy, ignorant way out.

[LordShaft]

what if you inflict harm on others to protect people from harm? Ex: Wars/peace

For peace, start a war.

[Jon88]

Originally Posted by LordShaft

PART II:

Then can people truly say that the "devil" is evil? Dose it think that it's doing the right thing? Mabye he's saving everyone and god tortures people

If you are going to approach this from a catholic or protestant perspective, then yes you can say he is evil.

If you approach this from a satanist perspective, then you might say he is good.

I would agree that there is a standard. Harming another creature without any reason should be seen as evil, and helping a creature should be seen as good. The Grey area is what justifies the harming of a creature, and/or what is "helping" a creature. Your example of terrorists is perfect they believe they are serving their creator and doing what is right, while we see it as the murdering of innocent lives thus labeling them as evil.

Perhaps rather than looking at the individual, look at the act. We can believe that they believe they are doing the right thing, but we nonetheless should keep are stance that the action was evil; perhaps view them as misguided. Of course they will see us as the misguided, so it all comes down to where you draw the line.

[Jaz2005]

"There is no good or bad; thinking makes it so"

William Shakespeare. Topic won.

[xenomorph]

Originally Posted by LordShaft

what if you inflict harm on others to protect people from harm? Ex: Wars/peace

For peace, start a war.

Very rarely do you find something completely good or completely bad, but one always weighs out the other

[Deathguise/Closure]

''Thinking'' your doing the good thing, doesn't deem it so. Killing people would undeniably be an evil thing.