The Don Imus and Al Sharpton thing.

[Rivenwolf]

If you haven't heard, Don Imus (apparently a white comedic radio host) said "nappy headed" "jigaboo" "wannabe" and "hoe" while on his radio show. He is now being called a racist and a bigot, and recently had to apologize to Al Sharpton (wtf?) over saying those things, and endure Al's criticism.

My opinion is that it is racial to call him a racist. There is a double standard on whites and blacks. For example, if a black radio host had said any of those things, he wouldn't be called a racist. Rappers criticize black women all the time, you never see Al Sharpton getting on their ass.

to quote a bulletin i read recently (yes, i have to visit myspace from time to time =(

Originally Posted by Bulletin

How many are actually paying attention to this?
There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc.
And then there are just Americans.
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me "White boy," "Cracker," "h*nk*y,"
"Whitey," "Caveman" . and that's OK.
But when I call you, n*gg*r, k**e, Towel head,
Sand-n*gg*r, camel Jockey, Beaner, g**k, or c*i*k ...
you call me a racist.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you,
so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
You have the United Negro College Fund. You have
Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah. You
have Ma'uled Al-Nabi. You have the NAACP.
You have BET.
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) .
we'd be racists.
If we had a White Pride Day .. you would call us racists.
If we had White History Month . we'd be racists.
If we had any organization for only whites to "advance" OUR lives .
we'd be racists.
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black
Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain
Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?
If we had a college fund that only gave white students
scholarships
... you know we'd be racists.
There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in
the US , yet if there were "White colleges" .
THAT would be a racist college.
In the Million Man March, you believed that you were
marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our
race and rights,
you would call us racists.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange,
and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we
announce our white pride ...
you call us racists.
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a
white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats
up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing
a threat to society you call him a racist.
I am proud.
But, you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?
There is nothing improper about this e-mail.
Let's see which of you are proud enough to send it on.

For the record, I am white, I am not a racist, in fact I find black dudes easier to get along with then white dudes. (in my area, though it's probably because most whites in my area try to act like something they're not)

I don't look at color, I look at personality, how you hold yourself in society dictates how I treat you, if you want to act "hood" and mouthing off about shooting/shanking people to appear cool, we won't get along.

If you are snobbish and look down on people or treat someone different based on anything other then how they act, we won't get along.

Just getting the "OP is racist" thing out of the way.

[Mugen]

How many are actually paying attention to this?
There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc.
And then there are just Americans.
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me "White boy," "Cracker," "h*nk*y,"
"Whitey," "Caveman" . and that's OK.
But when I call you, n*gg*r, k**e, Towel head,
Sand-n*gg*r, camel Jockey, Beaner, g**k, or c*i*k ...
you call me a racist.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you,
so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
You have the United Negro College Fund. You have
Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah. You
have Ma'uled Al-Nabi. You have the NAACP.
You have BET.
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) .
we'd be racists.
If we had a White Pride Day .. you would call us racists.
If we had White History Month . we'd be racists.
If we had any organization for only whites to "advance" OUR lives .
we'd be racists.
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black
Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain
Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?
If we had a college fund that only gave white students
scholarships
... you know we'd be racists.
There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in
the US , yet if there were "White colleges" .
THAT would be a racist college.
In the Million Man March, you believed that you were
marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our
race and rights,
you would call us racists.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange,
and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we
announce our white pride ...
you call us racists.
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a
white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats
up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing
a threat to society you call him a racist.
I am proud.
But, you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?
There is nothing improper about this e-mail.
Let's see which of you are proud enough to send it on.

Exactly. And I don't think it should be a big of a deal as everyone's making it up to be .

[Malbodiensis]

racists !

[JinDaYi]

Halle Berry to go bald for movie
Nappily Ever After (2008)
Nappily Ever After - Rotten Tomatoes

Basically, there's this movie titled "Nappily Ever After". If this talkshow host was clever enough, he could still squeeze his way through this nonsensical publicity by using the movie as a back up reference to his "joke". But God damn, from what I've heard of him (from him), he's **** out of luck. So one big "hahahaha" to that. Really sucks for him.

Links from moviefone, btw.

[Rivenwolf]

Lmao Jin

I personally can't believe he agreed to apologize to Al Sharpton, or anyone in that respect. But especially Al Sharpton, who himself most would say is racist against whites.

Larry Elder.com

[Gorilla Juice]

He should have thought about what he was saying before he said it. Which brings me to that one moral,

think before you leap, sir.

He knew what he was getting himself into, he just thought he would be able to pull a fast one on the listeners. Well, guess what, Imus, you suck.

[waterbuster]

I dont know whats going on here.

I cant tell if hes joking or serious.

[Rivenwolf]

Oh yes i'm serious, i'll post the links. White men can't say the same as black men because there is a double standard in society, the same applies to white advancement things, which is easily seen. (I am not a white supremist btw)

The original thing YouTube - Don Imus and Nappy Headed Hos

His meeting with Al Sharpton YouTube - Don Imus On Al Sharpton's Radio Show

Originally Posted by Gorilla Juice

He should have thought about what he was saying before he said it. Which brings me to that one moral,

think before you leap, sir.

He knew what he was getting himself into, he just thought he would be able to pull a fast one on the listeners. Well, guess what, Imus, you suck.

Gorilla, black rappers say the same things all the time, do they have to apologise? No.

Do they lose their jobs? No.

Do they have to have a discussion with Al Sharpton about themselves being racist? No.


If anything, they should have told him he was wrong for calling them nappy-headed hoes just because it's an insult. Not because it's a "racist remark". He still shouldn't have lost his job over it.

[Matt[CV]]

The quote is right.


And i am not, never will be a racist, i abhor racism.

[waterbuster]

ugh...

****ing mainstream media....

[Gorilla Juice]

Originally Posted by Rivenwolf

Gorilla, black rappers say the same things all the time, do they have to apologise? No.

Do they lose their jobs? No.

Do they have to have a discussion with Al Sharpton about themselves being racist? No.


If anything, they should have told him he was wrong for calling them nappy-headed hoes just because it's an insult. Not because it's a "racist remark". He still shouldn't have lost his job over it.

Still. Out of respect he should have kept his mouth shut. Rappers aren't calling them out like that. There are certain meanings for the word "hoe," you're obviously not familiar with the rap culture, so, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

When it comes down to it, he should have kept his fat ass mouth shut in the first place, otherwise, we wouldn't be here arguing over what a hoe is. He called them out saying "nappy headed hoes". And you're telling me that it's not worth losing your job over? You could lose your life over that, and I'm not even going into other derogatory words.

Not only did "they" tell him that he's wrong for it, the entire race of black people said he was wrong. O.k., I understand that sometimes us black people take things a tad bit too far and take things way too seriously, but still, out of respect for the women, black people, and the listeners of that show, he should have seriously watched what he was saying. I'm not that fired up about it, but it's still way too disrespectful for my taste.

[waterbuster]

Originally Posted by Gorilla Juice

Still. Out of respect he should have kept his mouth shut. Rappers aren't calling them out like that. There are certain meanings for the word "hoe," you're obviously not familiar with the rap culture, so, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

When it comes down to it, he should have kept his fat ass mouth shut in the first place, otherwise, we wouldn't be here arguing over what a hoe is. He called them out saying "nappy headed hoes". And you're telling me that it's not worth losing your job over? You could lose your life over that, and I'm not even going into other derogatory words.

Not only did "they" tell him that he's wrong for it, the entire race of black people said he was wrong. O.k., I understand that sometimes us black people take things a tad bit too far and take things way too seriously, but still, out of respect for the women, black people, and the listeners of that show, he should have seriously watched what he was saying. I'm not that fired up about it, but it's still way too disrespectful for my taste.

Summary: The guy is an idiot that fired off his trap.

Now....back to playing gunz....

edit: Extra summary: This has gotten way to out of hand in terms of media coverage.

[Rivenwolf]

Originally Posted by Gorilla Juice

Still. Out of respect he should have kept his mouth shut. Rappers aren't calling them out like that. There are certain meanings for the word "hoe," you're obviously not familiar with the rap culture, so, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

When it comes down to it, he should have kept his fat ass mouth shut in the first place, otherwise, we wouldn't be here arguing over what a hoe is. He called them out saying "nappy headed hoes". And you're telling me that it's not worth losing your job over? You could lose your life over that, and I'm not even going into other derogatory words.

Not only did "they" tell him that he's wrong for it, the entire race of black people said he was wrong. O.k., I understand that sometimes us black people take things a tad bit too far and take things way too seriously, but still, out of respect for the women, black people, and the listeners of that show, he should have seriously watched what he was saying. I'm not that fired up about it, but it's still way too disrespectful for my taste.

Yes he shouldn't have insulted anyone in the first place, which had nothing to do with race. I wouldn't have a problem with it if he was on the news for insulting someone, but that's not why he's on, he's on because apparently "jiggabu" "hoe" "nappy-headed" and "wannabe" are racial slurs now, which is stupid, I can walk up to any of my black friends and call them any of those and they won't be angry, I mentioned it today to one of my friends and he was laughing about it.

I'm saying there was nothing racial about those words, and no the entire black race's spokesperson is not Al Sharpton, nor do they all share his opinion on this matter. Like waterbuster said, this stuff shouldn't (and wouldn't of) got all this media coverage (and wouldn't of if race wasn't thrown in).

I'd be fine with him being fired for the insult, but he's being fired for "being a racist".

[Daisuke]

He shouldnt of said it in the first place.He say he was trying to make a joke which turned out wrong.Wtf kinda excuse is that?

Originally Posted by Rivenwolf

There is a double standard on whites and blacks. For example, if a black radio host had said any of those things, he wouldn't be called a racist.

There is such thing as context.

Originally Posted by Rivenwolf

For the record, I am white, I am not a racist, in fact I find black dudes easier to get along with then white dudes. (in my area, though it's probably because most whites in my area try to act like something they're not)

I don't look at color,

You don't look at color yet you define people by it?

Who cares if he got fired anyway? He was a terrible radio host.