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[Dancing Sun]

I am making this thread to see how GfZ members will respond. 8014u and I have been discussing this on ijji section, and I decided to move this on serious discussion.

Gunz needs a little more of this..

Originally Posted by 8014u

We may live in the same place (Nova Scotia) but we are both completely different. It's actually quite funny... Two people in a place that... Well, isn't exactly popular on the net, have two different nationalities with a... not so-good relationship. I don't care about the past, nore did I mean to say "we hate such and such" or "such and such hates such and such", but even you must agree that Koreans and Japanese aren't the most loved nations to each others culture.

I have to disagree with you with the technology level though. Only until a few years ago, when Japan blew the minds of thousands of countries with it's advanced graphics, did Korea suddenly appear.

I also disagree with the idea of Korea's animation budget being so low. In the past few years, more Korean animation has been produced than in any time of Korea's history. 2002 was the launch of Korea's most popular animated TV show (Forgot it's name) But Japan has been perfecting animation for well over two decades. Maybe even 3.

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Originally Posted by 8014u

We may live in the same place (Nova Scotia) but we are both completely different. It's actually quite funny... Two people in a place that... Well, isn't exactly popular on the net, have two different nationalities with a... not so-good relationship. I don't care about the past, nore did I mean to say "we hate such and such" or "such and such hates such and such", but even you must agree that Koreans and Japanese aren't the most loved nations to each others culture

No I don’t agree, that’s only if you are so closed minded and if you are looking to the past. You have to agree, we both share strong multimedia attentions all over Asia. Although we share throughout the Asia, we also share among just ourselves.

Originally Posted by 8014u

I have to disagree with you with the technology level though. Only until a few years ago, when Japan blew the minds of thousands of countries with it's advanced graphics, did Korea suddenly appear.

That’s true about technology advancement, but what it matters is now, right now we surpassed you in many different ways, although in robotics you guys maybe ahead

I also disagree with the idea of Korea's animation budget being so low. In the past few years, more Korean animation has been produced than in any time of Korea's history. 2002 was the launch of Korea's most popular animated TV show (Forgot it's name) But Japan has been perfecting animation for well over two decades. Maybe even 3.

You are forgetting this, why are you bringing up Korean’s animation budget? You obviously don’t understand what I meant by cheap. We are cheapest one to hire all over the world, that’s why famous western animations are done by us, since we are cheapest. The Simpsons, Family Guy, Futureama, etc its mostly done by Korean animation companies, they hire us to do it. Of course ideas are from original authors.



Until few years ago? Koreans started its wave since 2002, since FIFA yes that's few years ago, but look at today, most of big events such as World Cup or Olmypics, they are suponsored by Korean companies for electronics. I remember Japan's companies being the suponsors few years ago. Like I said, past doesn't matter, its today that matters.

[Dancing Sun]

Gunz needs a little more of this..

That's where we started to debate.. not flame.

[ManCaptain]

I have no knowledge about Korea or Japan history, except for the basic

of which we learn in school. However i always heard about Japan till this day

was more advance.

[NSman]

Most of the bastards who massacured Koreans and Chinese people are either dead, dying, or suffering from radioactive diseases (Hiroshima and Nagasaki- karma does exist, at least on a national level).

While I can understand most of the resentments of the Koreans (the Japanese did horrible, horrible things.), I will have to agree, let's put it aside in the past.

Sometimes, the Korean napolean syndrom gets a little ridiculous:
-Korean revisionists claim that Japanese samurai were based on a warrior class originating from Korea - the "Samurang"
-"Kumdo" is apparently Korea's own invention, while suprisingly, it is almost identical to the sport that the Japanese call "Kendo." I wonder why.
I believe those are minority views, but they give you a glimpse of how some Koreans really feel.

We should stop making ourselves look so foolish and just get over it. While forgiving perverted bastards who killed tons of Koreans and Chinese and raped our women would take nothing short of a saint, we can at least aknowledge that the current Japanese people had nothing to do with it.

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[waterbuster]

Silly humans, have you learned nothing?

[§ilvermoon]

Originally Posted by waterbuster

Silly humans, have you learned nothing?

*Cuts self* oww...no red blood, it's...oil... woot I r cyborg.
How so pro water? =o

[cici]

I'm Japanese, I don't hate Koreans. I'm best friends with Mc and Scream.

[waterbuster]

Originally Posted by §ilvermoon

*Cuts self* oww...no red blood, it's...oil... woot I r cyborg.
How so pro water? =o

Look at it from a third person standpoint.

People fight for the most idiotic things.

[Felix_D]

Japan must be one of the most awesome countries, they bombed china with that plague stuff during WW2. Then it got cancelled because the wind blew in the wrong direction causing the japanese soldiers getting infected and dieing.

Japan China Korean are all known to be pretty damm racist. Mostly Japan, there statement about the "baddies" from WW2 being dead now might be truth, but there's still a good amount of japanese(often with high position) that denies this in the first place. They also use violence againt people who are proving that it did happen.

However, the problem is that Japan have never admitted and gave a full apology to China or any other the Asian nations they invaded. There are some people like the Iranian President who stated that the Holocaust never occured. This may be the same issue with the Japanese emperor / high authorities / officials. I have heard this from many reputable sources such as TIME and Newsweek. I just need to shuffle out the sources, so let me have some time to look.

If one was to take a look at the Rape of Nanjing, the emperor never gave a full fledged apology to the Chinese. Crimes such as sticking knives in pregnant women's vaginas then slowly mutilating it, or forcing sons to perform incest with their mothers or fathers to commit incest on their daughters were practices not uncommon during the Nanjing incident. In some cases, there were even incidents where Japanese soldiers would perform a "manhunt" to capture a women, preferably a young and attractive female. If this woman was to be captured, she would be raped by ten or more men. Some women died from being raped too much in one day.

Nevertheless, I do not fully blame the whole Japanese race like some other people do. Japanese history books denies of such knowledge and their officials do not spread knowledge to its country's citizens (I'm sure all countries would deny such information too), but like Binkari said, they were just following orders during the time. Although there were numerous benefits such as advancing and maybe even, perfecting medical technologies in a sense, there were some incidents where the Japanese just became sadistic.

sorri. We not done such thing?

oh. here's more awesomeness

Human beings used for experiments were nicknamed "maruta" or "logs" because the cover story given to the local authorities was that Unit 731 was a lumber mill. Logs were inert matter, a form of plant life, and that was how the Japanese regarded the Chinese "bandits", "criminals" and "suspicious persons" brought in from the surrounding countryside.

Shackled hand and foot, they were fed well and exercised regularly. "Unless you work with a healthy body you can't get results," recalled a member of the Unit.

But the torture inflicted upon them is unimaginable: they were exposed to phosgene gas to discover the effect on their lungs, or given electrical charges which slowly roasted them. Prisoners were decapitated in order for Japanese soldiers to test the sharpness of their swords.

Others had limbs amputated to study blood loss - limbs that were sometimes stitched back on the opposite sides of the body. Other victims had various parts of their brains, lungs or liver removed, or their stomach removed and their oesophagus reattached to their intestines.

Kamada, one of several veterans who felt able to speak out after the death of Emperor Hirohito, remembered extracting the plague-infested organs of a fully conscious "log" with a scalpel.

"I inserted the scalpel directly into the log's neck and opened the chest," he said. "At first there was a terrible scream, but the voice soon fell silent."

Other experiments involved hanging prisoners upside down to discover how long it took for them to choke to death, and injecting air into their arteries to test for the onset of embolisms.

Some appear to have had no medical purpose except the administering of indescribable pain, such as injecting horse urine into prisoners' kidneys.

Those which did have a genuine medical value, such as finding the best treatment for frostbite - a valuable discovery for troops in the bitter Manchurian winters - were achieved by gratuitously cruel means.

On the frozen fields at Pingfan, prisoners were led out with bare arms and drenched with cold water to accelerate the freezing process.

Their arms were then hit with a stick. If they gave off a hard, hollow ring, the freezing process was complete. Separately, naked men and women were subjected to freezing temperatures and then defrosted to study the effects of rotting and gangrene on the flesh.

People were locked into high-pressure chambers until their eyes popped out, or they were put into centrifuges and spun to death like a cat in a washing machine. To study the effects of untreated venereal disease, male and female "logs" were deliberately infected with syphilis.

Ishii demanded a constant intake of prisoners, like a modern-day Count Dracula scouring the countryside for blood. His victims were tied to stakes to find the best range for flame-throwers, or used to test grenades and explosives positioned at different angles and distances. They were used as targets to test chemical weapons; they were bombarded with anthrax.

All of these atrocities had been banned by the Geneva Convention, which Japan signed but did not ratify. By a bitter irony, the Japanese were the first nation to use radiation against a wartime enemy. Years before Hiroshima, Ishii had prisoners' livers exposed to X-rays.

His work at Pingfan was applauded. Emperor Hirohito may not have known about Unit 731, but his family did. Hirohito's younger brother toured the Unit, and noted in his memoirs that he saw films showing mass poison gas experiments on Chinese prisoners.

Yeah I'd like some horse urine in my kidneys too. LOL

taken from Unit 731. I found this really interesting! - RagnaInfo Forums