Mankind: Inherently Evil vs Tabula Rasa

Terraka · 03-24-2007, 10:03 PM

It's the Age-old question of whether or not mankind is born evil, or everyone starts out in life as a "Blank Slate". From this topic, many ideologies of governing people have come into existance. What do you guys think? Please discuss.

Also, on a half-related note, do you agree with this:

"What we cannot understand, we will seek to control it. What we cannot control, we will seek to destroy it."

Cerb3rus · 03-24-2007, 10:07 PM

I REALLY don't think everything is just clean. Everything affects it, how you're raised, your genes, etc. That would assume that everyone starts out the same..

Terraka · 03-24-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerb3rus

I REALLY don't think everything is just clean. Everything affects it, how you're raised, your genes, etc. That would assume that everyone starts out the same..

So, in a way, you think that people are born as a "blank slate"? I know what you mean, about being raised and stuff. But what about a person being born "clean" or born "evil". What's your view on that. As there is always two sides to everything, there are people born into good families, but come out "bad". Likewise, there are people raised in horrific conditions, but come out like saints.

-Xca- · 03-24-2007, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Terraka

So, in a way, you think that people are born as a "blank slate"? I know what you mean, about being raised and stuff. But what about a person being born "clean" or born "evil". What's your view on that. As there is always two sides to everything, there are people born into good families, but come out "bad". Likewise, there are people raised in horrific conditions, but come out like saints.

Everyone is borned as a "clean slate"

Why? In my opinion,

When your a baby, you have no knowledge, and you have no idea how your going to be.

It doesnt matter when your born into the richest, nicest town in the world. He read a book, and somehow it intrigues his interest. Doesnt mean his born evil, or bad, its just that its something thats not common in his life. In the other hand, it can be common around him, and he can be used, thus the "7 yr old gangstas"

You cant be born evil. No way. Prove me wrong. Please.

Cerb3rus · 03-24-2007, 11:10 PM

I don't think you can be born evil, but everyone's thought process is different. Look at me. I'm evil!

waterbuster · 03-24-2007, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by -Xca-

You cant be born evil. No way. Prove me wrong. Please.

Smoking joints in pregnancy.

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Almost forgot:

Humans are not born evil, but born good. Our tendencies, however, lean to either.

manofsparrow · 03-24-2007, 11:43 PM

I think humans aren't born evil, but they all become evil later.
Babies can't think a lot.

Anyways, if you could become God with no negative consequences or tricks, would you do it?

Same answer to "Is mankind evil?"

Cerb3rus · 03-25-2007, 10:21 AM

Nope. That's why I want... WORLD DOMINATION BABY! But guns are gay, I wanna do it during 800 A.D. or so.

Or maybe be a pirate. Modern life is boring. ;x

Nayokia · 03-25-2007, 12:32 PM

Children don't see evil, their minds are pure.

Its what happens after, the actions that are made and the thoughts they have, can change people into shining examples or monsters.

xenomorph · 03-26-2007, 05:06 PM

I think this was covered in an earlier thread, but how would you define evil?

Terraka · 03-27-2007, 10:21 AM

lol. As with anything, there is always two sides. What is Good and what is Evil (IMO) is just a point of view. What one percieves as evil will vary from person to person. In saying this, my own opinion of the matter is man is both good and evil, yet neither one or the other. It just comes down to how another views such things.

Newbie · 03-27-2007, 11:59 AM

We are born with the potential of being "evil." Whether we become "evil" or not, depends on how the environment shapes us.

I personally feel that "evil" and "good" are just terms we use to describe perspectives (e.g., an "evil" person would not see him/herself as evil).

**Paul** · 03-27-2007, 01:45 PM

Neither. Children aren't born without knowledge. Children already recognize sound when they are born. This is why a child is drawn to it's mother. Now I'm not trying to say that there isn't a special bond between a mother and child, but speaking in terms of what we can actually prove, a child hears it's mother speaking when it's inside the womb, because her voice vibrates throughout her body. That's why (and pay attention, those of you who are thinking of having kids) a father should speak to his child through the mother's belly when it's in development, so that the child will recognize him as much or almost as much as the mother. I think that smell may also have something to do with it, but I'm not entirely sure.

At any rate, all children are born with a personality, no matter how nonexistant it may seem. This is effected by their genes, I believe. So some little children are born hellraisers(which you'll find out once they start walking x_x), while others are the nicest babies you'll meet.

Anyway, I have two younger brothers and three younger sisters, and I practically raised them. And I can safely say that none of them were evil at birth, even if one or two were a bit mischievious.

Cerb3rus · 03-27-2007, 02:34 PM

Lol I'm told I was awful when I could walk. I'd always be in some kind of trouble or hanging off a ledge or something, trying to drive cars, trucks.. rofl. Wouldn't say I was evil then as I'm evil now (GIMME YER BK STACKER), but was very mischievous. ;D

Pew · 04-03-2007, 10:57 PM

Well, I don't think humans are inherently evil, though the whole theory of Tabula Rasa, not so much. Considering, as Paul stated earlier, we are ( to an extent, no Nature vs. Nurture please =] ) - we are born with some personality traits and biological predispositions. But even so, if the case of humans being evil, what makes us evil? Is it just our primal tendencies coming out, anger, violence, greed, etc.. What else could you consider it to be can be just from cultural difference, perspectives on life, and so on. It's just not something that would be so easily placed. That's just what I think.

03-24-2007, 10:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
Terraka Gunzfactorian Soldier Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 539 Terraka's GamerBio	Mankind: Inherently Evil vs Tabula Rasa It's the Age-old question of whether or not mankind is born evil, or everyone starts out in life as a "Blank Slate". From this topic, many ideologies of governing people have come into existance. What do you guys think? Please discuss. Also, on a half-related note, do you agree with this: "What we cannot understand, we will seek to control it. What we cannot control, we will seek to destroy it."

03-24-2007, 10:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cerb3rus Gunzfactorian Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: on Cerb's Throne Posts: 1,308 Cerb3rus's GamerBio	Re: Mankind: Inherently Evil vs Tabula Rasa I REALLY don't think everything is just clean. Everything affects it, how you're raised, your genes, etc. That would assume that everyone starts out the same.. __________________ Gladiator Community

03-24-2007, 11:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Cerb3rus Gunzfactorian Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: on Cerb's Throne Posts: 1,308 Cerb3rus's GamerBio	Re: Mankind: Inherently Evil vs Tabula Rasa I don't think you can be born evil, but everyone's thought process is different. Look at me. I'm evil! __________________ Gladiator Community

03-24-2007, 11:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
manofsparrow Gunzfactorian Commando Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,643 manofsparrow's GamerBio	Re: Mankind: Inherently Evil vs Tabula Rasa I think humans aren't born evil, but they all become evil later. Babies can't think a lot. Anyways, if you could become God with no negative consequences or tricks, would you do it? Same answer to "Is mankind evil?"

03-25-2007, 10:21 AM	#8 (permalink)
Cerb3rus Gunzfactorian Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: on Cerb's Throne Posts: 1,308 Cerb3rus's GamerBio	Re: Mankind: Inherently Evil vs Tabula Rasa Nope. That's why I want... WORLD DOMINATION BABY! But guns are gay, I wanna do it during 800 A.D. or so. Or maybe be a pirate. Modern life is boring. ;x __________________ Gladiator Community

03-25-2007, 12:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
Nayokia Gunzfactorian Commando Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,522	Re: Mankind: Inherently Evil vs Tabula Rasa Children don't see evil, their minds are pure. Its what happens after, the actions that are made and the thoughts they have, can change people into shining examples or monsters. __________________

03-26-2007, 05:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
xenomorph Gunzfactorian Patriot Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 330 xenomorph's GamerBio	Re: Mankind: Inherently Evil vs Tabula Rasa I think this was covered in an earlier thread, but how would you define evil?

03-27-2007, 10:21 AM	#11 (permalink)
Terraka Gunzfactorian Soldier Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 539 Terraka's GamerBio	Re: Mankind: Inherently Evil vs Tabula Rasa lol. As with anything, there is always two sides. What is Good and what is Evil (IMO) is just a point of view. What one percieves as evil will vary from person to person. In saying this, my own opinion of the matter is man is both good and evil, yet neither one or the other. It just comes down to how another views such things.

03-27-2007, 11:59 AM	#12 (permalink)
Newbie Gunzfactorian Patriot Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 435	Re: Mankind: Inherently Evil vs Tabula Rasa We are born with the potential of being "evil." Whether we become "evil" or not, depends on how the environment shapes us. I personally feel that "evil" and "good" are just terms we use to describe perspectives (e.g., an "evil" person would not see him/herself as evil).

03-27-2007, 01:45 PM	#13 (permalink)
Paul The One and Only Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pennsylvania. Posts: 2,249 Paul's GamerBio	Re: Mankind: Inherently Evil vs Tabula Rasa Neither. Children aren't born without knowledge. Children already recognize sound when they are born. This is why a child is drawn to it's mother. Now I'm not trying to say that there isn't a special bond between a mother and child, but speaking in terms of what we can actually prove, a child hears it's mother speaking when it's inside the womb, because her voice vibrates throughout her body. That's why (and pay attention, those of you who are thinking of having kids) a father should speak to his child through the mother's belly when it's in development, so that the child will recognize him as much or almost as much as the mother. I think that smell may also have something to do with it, but I'm not entirely sure. At any rate, all children are born with a personality, no matter how nonexistant it may seem. This is effected by their genes, I believe. So some little children are born hellraisers(which you'll find out once they start walking x_x), while others are the nicest babies you'll meet. Anyway, I have two younger brothers and three younger sisters, and I practically raised them. And I can safely say that none of them were evil at birth, even if one or two were a bit mischievious. __________________

03-27-2007, 02:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
Cerb3rus Gunzfactorian Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: on Cerb's Throne Posts: 1,308 Cerb3rus's GamerBio	Re: Mankind: Inherently Evil vs Tabula Rasa Lol I'm told I was awful when I could walk. I'd always be in some kind of trouble or hanging off a ledge or something, trying to drive cars, trucks.. rofl. Wouldn't say I was evil then as I'm evil now (GIMME YER BK STACKER), but was very mischievous. ;D __________________ Gladiator Community

04-03-2007, 10:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
Pew Gunzfactorian Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 195	Re: Mankind: Inherently Evil vs Tabula Rasa Well, I don't think humans are inherently evil, though the whole theory of Tabula Rasa, not so much. Considering, as Paul stated earlier, we are ( to an extent, no Nature vs. Nurture please =] ) - we are born with some personality traits and biological predispositions. But even so, if the case of humans being evil, what makes us evil? Is it just our primal tendencies coming out, anger, violence, greed, etc.. What else could you consider it to be can be just from cultural difference, perspectives on life, and so on. It's just not something that would be so easily placed. That's just what I think. __________________ iTunes Card - 53 Primo-Sativa- 45 .