Having Children in Underdeveloped Countries

[Temporary0]

I read news of terrible conditions in underdeveloped countries in Africa and other parts of the world. Malaria, AIDS, famine, drought are all harsh realities people living there must endure. Is it in the best interest of the people to have children knowing the conditions they will be faced with?

[avers]

- -' it kind of goes against nature not to have kids, besides that when you live in a country where the average life expectancy is at 45 years max. yea ..having kids will get you benefits, someone to take care of you when you're older/missing a leg from a landmine, and at least SOMETHING to keep you happy in a poor and hot country thats been destroyed by wars

so yea...they should have kids, or do you think they'll just sit down and go...ah ya know..lets all die out, its not going too well eh?

[LostStandard_]

They get by. They go through it every day of their lives.

If those things were to happen to us, it would cause massive amount of death and hysteria.

[Nayokia]

The more kids they have, the more chances are that one survives and gets somewhere in life, rewarding there family.

This also decreases the chance as well, as close proximities mean more chance of infection.

[Firedauz]

It's a different situation in China, whereby couples are only allowed to have just 1 child per family. Anyone having more will be fined.

I relate this to China due to my recent readings that wealthy China people are able to pay the fines, thus China had revamped that rule to make it even more tighter. China, as you all probably had known by now, is the largest populated country in the world, and this law is passed to help curb the ever-growing population.

In that sense, putting aside the reasonings that they might feel "there is no place like home", I seriously wonder why those that are born and living in poor, under-developed, or war-scenes countries, didn't opt to move to another better country to live on?

Heck, if they can survive all these times living in harsh places, what's that to compare with just trying to evade the common illegal immigration law of other countries? We know that language and adaptability is the major problem, but what's that to stop the Chinese and Indians from spreading their wings all over the world? There are poor Chinese and Indians too in some of their rural areas, and some didn't even know English to begin with, but strong wills are what makes them tough to make a living elsewhere outside of their own harsh areas.

I must say, if a parent love their children, they should try and make the best for them, not just depending on the helps of the UNICEF or other helping organizations. Heck, just stowaway in those UN planes and head over to the US or anywhere the planes are taking them.

[-Xca-]

Originally Posted by Firedauz

It's a different situation in China, whereby couples are only allowed to have just 1 child per family. Anyone having more will be fined.

I relate this to China due to my recent readings that wealthy China people are able to pay the fines, thus China had revamped that rule to make it even more tighter. China, as you all probably had known by now, is the largest populated country in the world, and this law is passed to help curb the ever-growing population.

In that sense, putting aside the reasonings that they might feel "there is no place like home", I seriously wonder why those that are born and living in poor, under-developed, or war-scenes countries, didn't opt to move to another better country to live on?

Heck, if they can survive all these times living in harsh places, what's that to compare with just trying to evade the common illegal immigration law of other countries? We know that language and adaptability is the major problem, but what's that to stop the Chinese and Indians from spreading their wings all over the world? There are poor Chinese and Indians too in some of their rural areas, and some didn't even know English to begin with, but strong wills are what makes them tough to make a living elsewhere outside of their own harsh areas.

I must say, if a parent love their children, they should try and make the best for them, not just depending on the helps of the UNICEF or other helping organizations. Heck, just stowaway in those UN planes and head over to the US or anywhere the planes are taking them.

... Im not sure if I comprehanded you correctly, but if i have, Are you high?
People who live in those countries cant afford shoes. How the hell do you expect them to get on an airplane? THEY NEED the help from Red Cross and other organizations. Do you NOT understand? They dont have ANY money. Most of the population is BORN to DIE. Its not like people that are saying in this discussion. We are even fortunate enough to get clothes.. Hell we are on a computer, and probably lives in a mid size house with both mom and dad(Exceptions) Anyway, its their fate, its where they lived. I been through some hard shiit, but I cant even imagine, Born with aids, No clothes, No houses with A/C, Having a parent with no legs/arms, Just WAITING Desperately for food from Red Cross, and other situations

look, dont even try to "put yourself in their shoes" You cant. As simple as that.

Anyway on Topic, LOL if your a dude, wouldnt you wana get laid?

[eskuAdradit0]

the case of china is different

its superpopulation,thats why.

[Nayokia]

And yet china is off-topic, because it is over devolped, not under.

Stay more on topic....

[Goku-Su]

china > u afk

[Temporary0]

Originally Posted by -Xca-

Anyway on Topic, LOL if your a dude, wouldnt you wana get laid?

How enlightening. I never thought of this simplest reason.

But seriously, they do need support from aid organizations. They cannot simply migrate to a country such as the United States.

[Gatecrasher]

It's people like us that need to look out for them, we can start by shipping a crate full of condoms.

[Temporary0]

Originally Posted by Gatecrasher

It's people like us that need to look out for them, we can start by shipping a crate full of condoms.

How politically incorrect.

[Shikihe]

Well because they got those problems and their avarage life expectancy is low they need to repdroduce as much as possible to keep the country alive, so they might one day develop and get better conditions.

[Firedauz]

Originally Posted by -Xca-

... Im not sure if I comprehanded you correctly, but if i have, Are you high?
People who live in those countries cant afford shoes. How the hell do you expect them to get on an airplane? THEY NEED the help from Red Cross and other organizations. Do you NOT understand? They dont have ANY money. Most of the population is BORN to DIE. Its not like people that are saying in this discussion. We are even fortunate enough to get clothes.. Hell we are on a computer, and probably lives in a mid size house with both mom and dad(Exceptions) Anyway, its their fate, its where they lived. I been through some hard shiit, but I cant even imagine, Born with aids, No clothes, No houses with A/C, Having a parent with no legs/arms, Just WAITING Desperately for food from Red Cross, and other situations

look, dont even try to "put yourself in their shoes" You cant. As simple as that.

Anyway on Topic, LOL if your a dude, wouldnt you wana get laid?

I always love when someone who would start a debate by degrading the other person, not by actually addressing the fact directly..

They are people who are born to die? Fate? I tend to disagree on that.
No one is born fated just to die senselessly or without a clue of what to do, everyone can change their own life if they can.
That is why I used the example of China and India.

Questions:
1. Do you think there are no helpless, poor Chinese and Indians in their own country?
2. In those type of countries, even their own government didn't have enough to help them, do you think Red Cross or others will come to help them?

I certainly can answer: It's (1) Yes and (2) No.

The way I see it, those who are in the worst conditions in China & India are struggling even harder life than those in Africa, or if one wants to make a debate, fine - they are in the same condition. But how did they manage to make it out everyday anyway?

Its the will to improve their way of life, its the will to survive, everyone there will struggle no matter what to make the best for their children or for their couple. NOT by just depending on help of others. What kind of a thinking is that?

"Oh great, I'm born into this world, gonna die soon, but there are help from those organization, so damn everything, I'll just get laid anyway.." - is this what someone would think like? Again, what kind of a thnking is that?

To make it even more related, fine, there are other Africans that DID make a good living after they struggle themselves out of their miserable condition (there are lots of examples on Google). So the million dollar question is; if they can do it, why can't the rest of them do so as well?

[Gatecrasher]

Originally Posted by Temporary0

How politically incorrect.

TWO crates?