Never say anything opposing America if you reside here..

Agressor · 10-17-2006, 11:06 PM

All those nay-sayers and free thinkers opposite to American typical beliefs in all aspects... you are in danger.

Good job to America, for taking a step closer and making an identical Enabling Act of 1933.

http://www.informationliberation.com/index.php?id=16337

May luck be with all those who ever thought or said anything opposed to America..

I am leaving, this country is no longer safe for my thoughts.

Mo Hawk · 10-17-2006, 11:08 PM

usally i am all for bush bashing but the source is WAY TO BIAS.

Dakantos · 10-17-2006, 11:10 PM

O.O all i can say is WTF. and if this is true, Double WTF!

Valenvicio · 10-17-2006, 11:24 PM

W
T
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They cand do anythingto us based on what we think about america. We have free speech, free speech has been in effect since they made the bill of rights. IT'S IN THE CONSTITUTION. This country is becoming communist. If that is true, which I doubt because I have never heard of that website/news source before.

Ashlyed · 10-18-2006, 12:07 AM

China will overcome US soon.

**sheep** · 10-18-2006, 02:45 AM

If anyone's interested, you can read the Military Commissions Act here:

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...930enr.txt.pdf

I'll post more details on what I've been able to find out about it tomorrow, but for now I need to go to sleep.

This is discusting, a complete violation of human rights.

Malbodiensis · 10-18-2006, 02:57 AM

Glad I live in Australia.

Mwuu · 10-18-2006, 12:22 PM

Yay, more anti-Bush propaganda. Honestly, what are you trying to accomplish at this point? He's out of office in 2008, at which point our next president can fix his screw ups (hopefully).

That site is biased beyond reason. XD

Dakantos · 10-18-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mwuu

Yay, more anti-Bush propaganda. Honestly, what are you trying to accomplish at this point? He's out of office in 2008, at which point our next president can fix his screw ups (hopefully).

That site is biased beyond reason. XD

Well this does say "Bush Administration" in there like that doesn't it?

So technically any other presidents don't qualify under this act? and that it is nullified?

darkjut · 10-18-2006, 10:09 PM

who is to say another president like maybe the next one wont just use this act for their own gain? all it takes is a president having the majority of the people on his side in each state and he can do anything he wants. bush can do whatever he wants and say whatever he wants, but people will always think what they wish and he will never stop that. i think this war in iraq is wrong since we have no real reason for being over there. saddam wasnt connected to bin laden as they never proved it, he didnt have weapons of mass destruction and if he did he would have used them before, and we have no right interferring and taking over another government. we rebelled agaisnt our monarch 200 years ago and they can too if they wanted. bush is wrong for going to war with iraq, but i do support him in the war on terrorism. still, bush can come to my house if he wants and say whatever he wishes, but my mind and thoughts are my own and he can never strip them from me. i have no reason to fear this act since i am doing nothing wrong, so if i do gain reason to fear it, i will know that is the day that america has gone from a democracy to a dictatorship. incase bush forgot, he has 8 years in office at most, so he better know how to please the public if he thinks otherwise. however, he better remember that doing something illegal does not mean that he is safe from the supreme court, as they have their positions for life.

**Anga** · 10-18-2006, 11:34 PM

.....Dear fraud.

If you're going to piggyback might as well do it with style and well...at least you can say that they aren't lacking balls.

I like the bright side. Tans are fun.

**sheep** · 10-19-2006, 12:53 AM

Yes, the site is biased. However, if you look at several resources, and the bill itself, it's clear that it allows many things that should not be allowed.

A few examples off the top of my head (things I personally read from the act, as found on the Library of Congress website; this isn't from an indirect source):

Alien unlawful enemy combatants (for a definition you're going to have to read it) can be held in custody, without trial, and without even being told why they are being held, until it is "practical" to do so. Meaning people can be held indefinitely without a reason being given to them.

Alien unlawful enemy combatants cannot invoke the Gineva Conventions as a source of rights in there defense -- the detainees cannot claim basic human rights.

And who can be called an unlawful enemy combatant (alien simply means non-US citizen)? Anyone as decided by a tribunal, whose members are decided by the President, or the Secretary of Defense.

Those are just a few.. interesting details at the top of my head, there's a lot of questionable details in there, at any rate.

CyberCow · 10-26-2006, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malbodiensis

Glad I live in Australia.

If this keeps on going, Im going to Canada.

EDIT: Heard that people where freindly there.

Turokcalde · 10-26-2006, 04:33 PM

fck america

someone /FBI me plz

Pheerful · 10-26-2006, 07:00 PM

Dont worry about it guys, everyone knows Pheer will become king of america any year now

10-17-2006, 11:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
Agressor Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a Ketchup bottle. Posts: 82 Agressor's GamerBio	Never say anything opposing America if you reside here.. All those nay-sayers and free thinkers opposite to American typical beliefs in all aspects... you are in danger. Good job to America, for taking a step closer and making an identical Enabling Act of 1933. http://www.informationliberation.com/index.php?id=16337 May luck be with all those who ever thought or said anything opposed to America.. I am leaving, this country is no longer safe for my thoughts. __________________

10-17-2006, 11:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mo Hawk Gunzfactorian Postcount Demi-God Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 7,736	Re: Never say anything opposing America if you reside here.. usally i am all for bush bashing but the source is WAY TO *BIAS*. __________________ BASTARD!!!!!!!!

10-17-2006, 11:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
Valenvicio Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 98 Valenvicio's GamerBio	Re: Never say anything opposing America if you reside here.. W T F They cand do anythingto us based on what we think about america. We have free speech, free speech has been in effect since they made the bill of rights. IT'S IN THE CONSTITUTION. This country is becoming communist. If that is true, which I doubt because I have never heard of that website/news source before. __________________ han Han - "This isn't math. This isn't music. This is Gunz.

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10-18-2006, 02:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
sheep Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada Posts: 986	Re: Never say anything opposing America if you reside here.. If anyone's interested, you can read the Military Commissions Act here: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...930enr.txt.pdf I'll post more details on what I've been able to find out about it tomorrow, but for now I need to go to sleep. This is discusting, a complete violation of human rights. __________________ Bye everyone, it was fun while it lasted. Click here for my K-Style Techniques Guide

10-18-2006, 10:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
darkjut Gunzfactorian Soldier Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 640	Re: Never say anything opposing America if you reside here.. who is to say another president like maybe the next one wont just use this act for their own gain? all it takes is a president having the majority of the people on his side in each state and he can do anything he wants. bush can do whatever he wants and say whatever he wants, but people will always think what they wish and he will never stop that. i think this war in iraq is wrong since we have no real reason for being over there. saddam wasnt connected to bin laden as they never proved it, he didnt have weapons of mass destruction and if he did he would have used them before, and we have no right interferring and taking over another government. we rebelled agaisnt our monarch 200 years ago and they can too if they wanted. bush is wrong for going to war with iraq, but i do support him in the war on terrorism. still, bush can come to my house if he wants and say whatever he wishes, but my mind and thoughts are my own and he can never strip them from me. i have no reason to fear this act since i am doing nothing wrong, so if i do gain reason to fear it, i will know that is the day that america has gone from a democracy to a dictatorship. incase bush forgot, he has 8 years in office at most, so he better know how to please the public if he thinks otherwise. however, he better remember that doing something illegal does not mean that he is safe from the supreme court, as they have their positions for life.

10-18-2006, 11:34 PM	#11 (permalink)
Anga Former Caustic Mod Golden Gunzfactorian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Please don't stalk me. Posts: 3,492	Re: Never say anything opposing America if you reside here.. .....Dear fraud. If you're going to piggyback might as well do it with style and well...at least you can say that they aren't lacking balls. I like the bright side. Tans are fun.

10-19-2006, 12:53 AM	#12 (permalink)
sheep Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada Posts: 986	Re: Never say anything opposing America if you reside here.. Yes, the site is biased. However, if you look at several resources, and the bill itself, it's clear that it allows many things that should not be allowed. A few examples off the top of my head (things I personally read from the act, as found on the Library of Congress website; this isn't from an indirect source): Alien unlawful enemy combatants (for a definition you're going to have to read it) can be held in custody, without trial, and without even being told why they are being held, until it is "practical" to do so. Meaning people can be held indefinitely without a reason being given to them. Alien unlawful enemy combatants cannot invoke the Gineva Conventions as a source of rights in there defense -- the detainees cannot claim basic human rights. And who can be called an unlawful enemy combatant (alien simply means non-US citizen)? Anyone as decided by a tribunal, whose members are decided by the President, or the Secretary of Defense. Those are just a few.. interesting details at the top of my head, there's a lot of questionable details in there, at any rate. __________________ Bye everyone, it was fun while it lasted. Click here for my K-Style Techniques Guide

10-26-2006, 04:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
Turokcalde Gunzfactorian Hero Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Syberia Posts: 3,263	Re: Never say anything opposing America if you reside here.. fck america someone /FBI me plz __________________ Children, children, gather around, your friend Pogo has come to town.

10-26-2006, 07:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
Pheerful Gunzfactorian Veteran Hero Breakout Champion!Tournaments Won: 1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,237	Re: Never say anything opposing America if you reside here.. Dont worry about it guys, everyone knows Pheer will become king of america any year now __________________