Serious? Semi, rape topic.

[Ghos7Soldier]

Alright, so in another forum there is a topic about Abortion being a crime or not...rape got involved and..

Someone said that it's all the rape victims fault for letting the rapists have their way with them and is using religion, God, to help his expression out.

WHAT THE ****!?


So, my question to you is to make this a serious discussion...

Your thoughts on rape,
what do you know about it?
What would you do in a rape attempt?
If you had any chance to get out of it would you take it or would you think it would make the person hurt you and etc?

You know...stuff like this.


Sorry, I'm just pissed off at the fact this person is bringing god and saying how the person should be punished for allowing the rapist to have their way with them.

If they let them have their way it's NOT rape damnit! It's willing! Rape is NOT willing!

[guntakeda]

Hmm
Well personally i think rape is disgusting! If it happened to anyone I know I would probably go after the person who did it and give them a good kicking.

It nearly happened to a friend of mine in a bar near closing time. The guy attempted to rape her / sexually assault her. Luckily she got away from him.
The question of rape & abortion. I think that if it does actually happen to any woman, they should have the full right to have an abortion - They may choose not to, under religious, or ethical conerns but I would personally say woman who get raped and become pregnant should get rid of the child. If God is punishing woman by rape - through the proxy of other men. Then God is a cunt.

NO ONE! Can justify rape through that means. Nothing can justify rape at all. There is only one reason for rape and that is that, The people doing the crime are just sick minded & should be put in jail for life.

[Colby]

Originally Posted by Ghos7Soldier

Alright, so in another forum there is a topic about Abortion being a crime or not...rape got involved and..

Someone said that it's all the rape victims fault for letting the rapists have their way with them and is using religion, God, to help his expression out.

WHAT THE ****!?


So, my question to you is to make this a serious discussion...

Your thoughts on rape,
what do you know about it?
What would you do in a rape attempt?
If you had any chance to get out of it would you take it or would you think it would make the person hurt you and etc?

You know...stuff like this.


Sorry, I'm just pissed off at the fact this person is bringing god and saying how the person should be punished for allowing the rapist to have their way with them.

If they let them have their way it's NOT rape damnit! It's willing! Rape is NOT willing!

Wow, what a tart. Link to the thread please, I wanna tear into that rofl...I mean, it's one thing to defend your religion, but you CAN'T use it to justify crime under any circumstance.

On Topic:

Rape is unwilling, I know it's done often brutally and without cause other than being out late. If I were in a rape, I would probably do all but. I'm typically cautious so the chances are slim, but I'll be ready if it's necessary for me to be in an area where I could (I would carry some sort of spray or sharp object).

I would take any chance I got to get out of a rape, including deadly force if necessary, I don't play around with my life and no ****er is gonna take away my dignity without a fight.

[Ghos7Soldier]

Originally Posted by Colby

Wow, what a tart. Link to the thread please, I wanna tear into that rofl...I mean, it's one thing to defend your religion, but you CAN'T use it to justify crime under any circumstance.

He's either a troll or just stupid...or both.
On Topic:

Rape is unwilling, I know it's done often brutally and without cause other than being out late. If I were in a rape, I would probably do all but. I'm typically cautious so the chances are slim, but I'll be ready if it's necessary for me to be in an area where I could (I would carry some sort of spray or sharp object).

I would take any chance I got to get out of a rape, including deadly force if necessary, I don't play around with my life and no ****er is gonna take away my dignity with a fight.

Red color....

[Mr.Lucifer]

Rape - Definitions from Dictionary.com

"1. the unlawful compelling of a woman through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
2. any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person."

By saying the rape victim lets the rapist rape them you're not really talking about rape. You're simply denying it's existance. That's ignorance at its best.

[STM1993]

Rape:

Rape is basically engaging in sexual intercourse without the female partner's consent, which is illegal.

I'm really disgusted with people who rape. Girls have their dignity and they deserve to be respected. So what if you have so much lust and sexual desire that you have to release it? Go and find someone who offers such a service or go and watch porn or masturbate to control that desire.

Originally Posted by Ghos7Soldier

Alright, so in another forum there is a topic about Abortion being a crime or not...rape got involved and..

Someone said that it's all the rape victims fault for letting the rapists have their way with them and is using religion, God, to help his expression out.

Sorry, I'm just pissed off at the fact this person is bringing god and saying how the person should be punished for allowing the rapist to have their way with them.

If they let them have their way it's NOT rape damnit! It's willing! Rape is NOT willing!

Okay, it is understandable that a girl may just succumb to the orgasm and mental/emotional situations and end up not fighting back or too weak to fight back. But the whole point about rape is, the girl DOESN'T want it AT ALL in the first place. If a rape victim is willing to get raped, that isn't rape... that's just sexual intercourse.

I don't mind people who try to protect their religion or give religious views, but I absolutely hate it when they apply it at the wrong time and wrong way. His major mistake is thinking that rape victims allow the rapist to perform his action. No, rape is a forced act of sexual intercourse in which the victim does not give her consent.

Let me speak a bit religiously given that I have some knowledge on it. Sure, I am told that it is a sin to have sex before marriage, have sex with others instead of the husband/wife after marriage, and to not have sex with the one you have married at all (unless there is a valid reason). Now, while that is the case, rape is a forced act, whereas sex is one with consent. So it is not the victim's fault at all, and therefore she is innocent. The fault should, instead, be on the rapist for his absolute failure to control his temptations, and he should be dealt with.

I won't talk about abortion since this topic is about rape.

Having said all these, I believe that the girl should fight back until she cannot fight back anymore, no matter the circumstance, whether she would die fighting or anything, as it is her dignity and even her life if she still lives that is at stake. Failure to fight back is understandable as I have said a few paragraphs earlier.




To sum it all up,



It is all about the definition of the word "rape", and...

Rape basically happens due to the rapist's fault for controlling himself, while the victim should not be at fault if it is due to failure to fight back.

[Mr.Lucifer]

Originally Posted by STM1993

Rape:

Rape is basically engaging in sexual intercourse without the female partner's consent, which is illegal.

I'm really disgusted with people who rape. Girls have their dignity and they deserve to be respected. So what if you have so much lust and sexual desire that you have to release it? Go and find someone who offers such a service or go and watch porn or masturbate to control that desire.

Rape can happen with both genders. There are women raping men too (ZOMG). I read in an article that these men usually feel very ashamed of it and comitts suicide. But no one knows how many this happens to because it's barely ever reported.

Edit:

Nevermind, I read in the dictionary link I found that I am wrong and there are no equality amongst the genders when it comes to rape since the first definition assumes the victim is always female. Feel free to rape men as much as you want, they don't have any rights to control their own sex life.

[Terrorist]

Originally Posted by STM1993

Rape:

Rape is basically engaging in sexual intercourse without the female partner's consent, which is illegal.

I'm really disgusted with people who rape. Girls have their dignity and they deserve to be respected. So what if you have so much lust and sexual desire that you have to release it? Go and find someone who offers such a service or go and watch porn or masturbate to control that desire.



Okay, it is understandable that a girl may just succumb to the orgasm and mental/emotional situations and end up not fighting back or too weak to fight back. But the whole point about rape is, the girl DOESN'T want it AT ALL in the first place. If a rape victim is willing to get raped, that isn't rape... that's just sexual intercourse.

I don't mind people who try to protect their religion or give religious views, but I absolutely hate it when they apply it at the wrong time and wrong way. His major mistake is thinking that rape victims allow the rapist to perform his action. No, rape is a forced act of sexual intercourse in which the victim does not give her consent.

Let me speak a bit religiously given that I have some knowledge on it. Sure, I am told that it is a sin to have sex before marriage, have sex with others instead of the husband/wife after marriage, and to not have sex with the one you have married at all (unless there is a valid reason). Now, while that is the case, rape is a forced act, whereas sex is one with consent. So it is not the victim's fault at all, and therefore she is innocent. The fault should, instead, be on the rapist for his absolute failure to control his temptations, and he should be dealt with.

I won't talk about abortion since this topic is about rape.

Having said all these, I believe that the girl should fight back until she cannot fight back anymore, no matter the circumstance, whether she would die fighting or anything, as it is her dignity and even her life if she still lives that is at stake. Failure to fight back is understandable as I have said a few paragraphs earlier.




To sum it all up,



It is all about the definition of the word "rape", and...

Rape basically happens due to the rapist's fault for controlling himself, while the victim should not be at fault if it is due to failure to fight back.

i like you .

[Fail9000]

first of all, the person would have to attempt to get a 6ft 4 heavy built guy to bend over.

if they guy had a knife or some kind of melee weapon and he said he was going to rape me, i wouldn't care about getting stabbed a couple of times just to knock him out or even if it was more than 1 guy.

[An Amateur]

Originally Posted by Mr.Lucifer

Rape can happen with both genders. There are women raping men too (ZOMG). I read in an article that these men usually feel very ashamed of it and comitts suicide. But no one knows how many this happens to because it's barely ever reported.

Edit:

Nevermind, I read in the dictionary link I found that I am wrong and there are no equality amongst the genders when it comes to rape since the first definition assumes the victim is always female. Feel free to rape men as much as you want, they don't have any rights to control their own sex life.

This is true, its merly sexual abuse if you are a male victim. You'd think it must take more effort to rape a man so if anything the punishments should be equal or more sever.

[Love Souljah]

Two things:

• Rape is never consensual.
• Anyone can use faith to justify anything.

[LordShaft]

Originally Posted by Mr.Lucifer

Rape can happen with both genders. There are women raping men too (ZOMG). I read in an article that these men usually feel very ashamed of it and comitts suicide. But no one knows how many this happens to because it's barely ever reported.

Edit:

Nevermind, I read in the dictionary link I found that I am wrong and there are no equality amongst the genders when it comes to rape since the first definition assumes the victim is always female. Feel free to rape men as much as you want, they don't have any rights to control their own sex life.

even if she gives u sleeping pills

and a viagra?

[Whist]

Well a lot of rape isn't like TV makes it where some guy grabs a girl, carries her to an alley and shoves his dick in her a few times and then leaves.

It's usually a drunk fratboy pinning a chick down who says she doesn't want to go all the way, he ignores her and continues to hold her down while he rams it in her a little.

The problem with this is the girls aren't fighting back enough to show drunk fratboy that they really mean no. Words aren't enough sometimes because guys are horny and stupid generally. Who's fault is it? I don't know it really depends on how everything went down.


In any event I'm for abortion no matter what. You don't want your unborn child go ahead even if you purposely impregnated yourself. I think of it as the undo function on paint, once you get to a certain point you just can't do it...but before that go ahead.
I can't say I would ever be able to do it to a child that's mine though.

[An Amateur]

Originally Posted by LordShaft

even if she gives u sleeping pills

and a viagra?

Even then its only classed as sexual abuse and carries a lesser sentancing. Even though in such a case its obviously pre-meditated and in no way a grey area.

[Vonterul]

I think rape is a method of the past, when we were only animals, to make the race procreate and live strong. It is barbaric, fueled by a desire to possess, to control and probably to satisfy one's sexual desires.

I know it's a problem that has always been there and that probably will not go away anytime soon. I also believe that, in such an era where we, humans, are supposed to be able to think and act accordingly, rape should not exist. However, it does, which makes me believe that we aren't all that advanced and mighty. Hell, we might be worse than animals.

Should someone/many attempt to rape me, I don't know what I would do. It depends on the situation. It goes without saying that I would probably fight back to the best of my abilities, but there are battles you can't win. I know that I'll take being alive over my dignity any day of the week. Rape isn't so much a violation of the body as it is a violation of the mind. What happens after? I don't know. That depends on how I'd take it. And I don't know how I'd take it.

Rape is a serious problem, and I wish people would drop the entire male rapes woman thing.
You can get raped by anyone. Male on male, female on female, whatever. It's not important. What matters is that we talk about it and bring it out into the light. Don't be afraid to talk about it. It's too much of a burden to take on alone. And you're not alone.
Hopefully, they'll be brought to justice. Even if they're not, don't give them the satisfaction
of knowing they destroyed you. Rise from the ashes. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. There is no shame in defeat as long as the spirit remains unconquered.
I also wish people would stop attempting to frame someone for rape when nothing happened, it's just disgusting, inappropriate. There are other ways to get revenge, if it's even worth getting revenge for it.

Abortion? I'm all for it, no matter the situation. The problem isn't the abortion itself, it's the people who think making babies is nothing important. If everyone remembered to put on a condom and that sex isn't just all ****s and giggles, that would fix half the problem. It should be a solution when all else fails - the condom broke, something went wrong, rape, etc. Not a solution when you didn't even care and just ****ed someone silly.