A lot of people ask "What happens after you die"..

[Paul]

I've got a doosey for you. And I'd like a few perspectives on this..

What happens before you LIVE?

Now, my views are almost exclusively atheistic, and no, I have not looked this up or done any research on other views. Just wondering what you guys think. From my perspective, I find this a difficult thing to grasp. I would love to believe that everyone has a soul, but that is a concept that makes little sense to me. However..

It is also hard for me to accept that my existance begins at the development of my conscious thought, and ends when that finally fails. I can't help but wonder if this is the only life I will ever experience, or if it is merely the most recent in a line of lives. I mean, my brain tells me that it makes no real sense, but my brain also tells me that nonexistance is unrealistic as well. After all, my brain can't recall ever not existing..

Anyway I guess I'm babbling or whatever, I've just been thinking a lot. Tell me what you think of your existance, or lackthereof, before birth/development/conception.

[Sharpy]

welllllllllllllll
we is sperm swimming then we finds an egg
but before that....i dunno

[Atropos]

Well when you sleep you really don't think except you dream so when you die your in a permenent sleep except you don't get dreams

[Mr.Lucifer]

If I think about stuff like that I consider suicide to check if religion is correct. I really want it to believe in it, but I can't.

OT I have no idea. I think it's impossible to know.

[Colby]

Well maybe we are in a different place you know? Like a different dimension, but when we die we travel to another dimension as a new being somewhere else. I mean, that's an Atheistic answer for you, personally I think there is a heaven, I just think it's a bit different than our conception. And I don't mean reincarnation, I mean another place entirely where physics may be different ect...So like, we are maybe our consciousness goes into a hibernation for a while or a long time until we get put back into another physical body, sort of like a soul but different, because it has no shape or opacity, it's just like a wavelength or something.

[manofsparrow]

Originally Posted by Billionz

Well maybe we are in a different place you know? Like a different dimension, but when we die we travel to another dimension as a new being somewhere else. I mean, that's an Atheistic answer for you, personally I think there is a heaven, I just think it's a bit different than our conception. And I don't mean reincarnation, I mean another place entirely where physics may be different ect...So like, we are maybe our consciousness goes into a hibernation for a while or a long time until we get put back into another physical body, sort of like a soul but different, because it has no shape or opacity, it's just like a wavelength or something.

So it's basically like recycling 'souls'?

[slingblader]

At some point I was a wide array of varied atoms making up elements, and in many cases compounds. From there, through a single possible strand of cause and effect, my essence was born from said materials and here I stand now, composed of dinosaur piss and prehistoric weed.

But, I have to admit, I have though of it similarly to you. There CAN'T be this completely unproven realm beyond us, but at the same time, how can't there be?

I decided a long time ago though that this kind of issue would never be a big deal to me. Decided to live this life, and I guess we'll see what happens next in due time.

[Dogs]

The first REAL memory I remember actually consciously being in was in my room at 3 years old, with all my memories (I first saw everything like I just got off the couch and un-blacked out thing when If you lay down too long and get up everything is all black). Before that I was walking down a 20 ft wide completely white hallway with computers spaced out every 8 ft or so...Kind of weird how I remember all that...

[Colby]

Originally Posted by manofsparrow

So it's basically like recycling 'souls'?

Well I don't like to use that term in this case because I'm not talking about what people might percieve as a soul (ie: a mirror image of yourself except ghostly and with no clothes). What I'm referring to is our consciousness, the thing that allows us to percieve things. Something an inanimate object might not have, like a chair.

This, this consciousness might be some wavelength that has the ability to anchor to physical bodies or inanimate objects and allow perception. This might explain supernatural events as maybe some of these are strayed off course to another body and enter some other object and "possess" it so to speak.

[manofsparrow]

Originally Posted by Billionz

Well I don't like to use that term in this case because I'm not talking about what people might percieve as a soul (ie: a mirror image of yourself except ghostly and with no clothes). What I'm referring to is our consciousness, the thing that allows us to percieve things. Something an inanimate object might not have, like a chair.

This, this consciousness might be some wavelength that has the ability to anchor to physical bodies or inanimate objects and allow perception. This might explain supernatural events as maybe some of these are strayed off course to another body and enter some other object and "possess" it so to speak.

You have a big imagination.
Keep thinking of possibilities and they might develop into something.

[Colby]

Originally Posted by manofsparrow

You have a big imagination.
Keep thinking of possibilities and they might develop into something.

Oh I'm founding a religion some day, I mean, if L Ron Hubbard can do it...

[Purch]

Pepole say You go to Heaven or Hell and w/e I relly rather belive it the sientific way once you die your dead and not a part of this world agien so the only connection to you that sitll exist is your dead body. All your feelings and such are in your brain and once your brain shuts down theres nothing of who you were.

Dieing also bring peace to some pepole.

[Paul]

Lol. So far, two people have not bothered to read the main post.

[guntakeda]

Lol, Interesting concept.
consciousness before birth if any.

Well obviously you start of as a single jizz! But apart from that i cant comment more. Sperm have one goal. Reach the egg, every sperm for himself!

But Our existance before our conception was that of epic nothingness in the universe.
People really dont see / think about how lucky they were being one in a billion to reach that egg.

I would only ever consider a baby starting to from a consciousness when they start to have understanding. Which you get a basic knowledge of when your like a few months old I'm sure.

The baby in the womb i would never consider a full human being (for obvious reason - Talking about mental development) Defining a human is hard. Personally I'd call Human Kind a disease on this planet lol. But the baby in the womb, would (probably would but we cant remember) Have formed some basic thought about what its like in this little sack of theres.

Anyway, I would say maybe that any persons consiousness is only ever fully formed, when they die. I would class it has (as stated before) Reason, Knowledge & Understanding. Meaning when you die its the very end of your consious mind & physical being. People are shaped through there life time. Meaning events etc shape the person you are right now & the person you will be in 50 years time.

I dunno I find it hard to get my head around that. When i die etc that is just it for me. In terms of a lifetime, we humans are a pretty weak bunch O animals. The only reason we are different from other animals is because we can use our consious to reason (other animals can do it but we do it to a whole other level), we have knowledge & Logic. I mean a consious is also our moral compass aswell as our thoughts & knowledge.

A philosophical explanation of what consciousness is or how it might be explained just cant be found. If we stick to what it is like to be a conscious human being, we have no explanation; if we try to explain consciousness in terms of what goes on in our brains, the sheer feel of consciousness itself is left aside.

What happens before you live

Just one of those question we cant explain. Also depends on how you consider when you live i guess. I mean, if you count coming out of the womb as living, so when you actually form your consious thoughts then its really besides the point. However looking from a scientific view, we are just created & either we end up on a tissue or in a cosy womb! Or just die!
Quite a sad existance before we are actually born when you think about it lol.

But makes you think how insignificant any of us really are.

I sorta waffled in this entire topic, hard to talk about O_O. Also hard to reply cause most of the posts arent trying to answer the question xD

[°Jacob°]

Originally Posted by Paul

I've got a doosey for you. And I'd like a few perspectives on this..

What happens before you LIVE?

Now, my views are almost exclusively atheistic, and no, I have not looked this up or done any research on other views. Just wondering what you guys think. From my perspective, I find this a difficult thing to grasp. I would love to believe that everyone has a soul, but that is a concept that makes little sense to me. However..

It is also hard for me to accept that my existance begins at the development of my conscious thought, and ends when that finally fails. I can't help but wonder if this is the only life I will ever experience, or if it is merely the most recent in a line of lives. I mean, my brain tells me that it makes no real sense, but my brain also tells me that nonexistance is unrealistic as well. After all, my brain can't recall ever not existing..

Anyway I guess I'm babbling or whatever, I've just been thinking a lot. Tell me what you think of your existance, or lackthereof, before birth/development/conception.

i was thinking of the expanding/de-expanding (dunno the word for it) and i thought that after it expands fully, and gravity pulls it all back together, and it big bangs again, the exact same things happen over and over again. so you'll be posting this same exact thread again after the next big bang according to my theory ^^