Gladiator Move section

[Hymnosi]

It has come to my attention that gladiator techniques are not very well known and knowlege of them is generally horded. Is there anyone on the Wiki staff that would object to me organizing and creating a page based on gladiator alone.


The overview would probably look something along the lines of...


Gladiator Techniques are techniques used in sword versus sword combat, namely gladiator games.


Wow my brain just died. 3:23 am...

[Cyssero]

I, in my own opinion would frown apon this idea Hymn.

Sword Techniques are meant to be learnt on there own. Look what happened when Cerb posted his instakill vids? Mass people instakilling... I vote for keeping the sword moves mainly unposted and non-viewable. Just my two cents, to keep the Gladiator-types really 'knowledgable' rather than a tutorialed twit.

[Hymnosi]

Originally Posted by Cyssero

I, in my own opinion would frown apon this idea Hymn.

Sword Techniques are meant to be learnt on there own. Look what happened when Cerb posted his instakill vids? Mass people instakilling... I vote for keeping the sword moves mainly unposted and non-viewable. Just my two cents, to keep the Gladiator-types really 'knowledgable' rather than a tutorialed twit.

I believe the opposite. Only a hand full of people on the razors edge of techniques have actually found anything. The rest was handed down the grapevine. Gladiators do this to keep thier edge, which its more like promoting ignorance to be honest.

I recently learned of a few techniques that even myself (a seasoned gladiator of reputable backround) had never heard of, and with good reason. These techniques were so subtle that no one could possibly find them on thier own except through sheer luck. Not only that, they were powerful enough to change the outcome of most of my matches.

I went to teach these techniques to some of my closer friends to find that they already knew about them and had been using them without telling anyone else.

[samusakis]

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Whell it's a fact that there are not much of sword tehniques.
Atleast you have to be fast enoth to manage to do it.

Personaly i think that everyone sould play with theyr own styles and don't try to capy other people that has biger experience in sword games.

[Hymnosi]

Originally Posted by samusakis

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Whell it's a fact that there are not much of sword tehniques.
Atleast you have to be fast enoth to manage to do it.

Personaly i think that everyone sjould play with theyr own styles and don't try to capy other people that has biger experience in sword games.

These arn't styles though, they are techniques. And there is alot more sword techniques than you think. There are few steps, but many many techniques.


The format for the techniques would be as follows...

Technique Name (Best of knowlege): Footslash
Description: By looking down towards the ground while slashing your opponent, you can prevent being stunned by Groundblock. However, you can still be stunned by skyblock.

[samusakis]

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I say tahat these things come with time and how long yiu are playing...
Like i know i cant beat you, but i have inproved wery much.
And after some time i may learn some things that i can't do now.

By the way i think that everyone have to find out everything by themselves.
Don't take the pleashure from the people to obtain new strench and new stuff they think of by making everything "grey" training and "descriptions" of the techniques.

You can do that to your student that learns how to play from you but not to all...

[Cerb3rus]

It's not that gladiator techniques aren't common, it's just people don't know how to apply them properly.

[Hymnosi]

Originally Posted by Cerb3rus

It's not that gladiator techniques aren't common, it's just people don't know how to apply them properly.

Thats not true man. Half the crap I learned last week I knew how to apply immediately. However, prying them from the other gladiators cold dead hands took ages.

[Cyssero]

I would have to agree with Cerb.

Most people know the moves or the techniques, they just don't know how to apply them in certain situations. Meaning, enter a TGlad match, you, as being seasoned yourself, must know there are over half the people in there just spamming Bflys in a circle or left-right-left-right or some other oridinary fashion. They know the move, they dont know how to use it, or they wouldn't be so... "naive" about using it. Same goes with kStylers. Many of them know the techniques, but half of them can't use them properly.

On that note, go ahead and write a section on it, I doubt the people who can't apply the moves now will after you post anything on it.

Also Hymn, your level of experience in sword-play allows you to be able to recognize where and when to apply moves easily. But please, note how many glads out there focus on speed, and not application of Bfly, yet alone anything else.

[Hymnosi]

The thing is, how exactly does one learn to apply a technique, when one doesn't know the technique even exists.

Take diamons for example. He started maybe... 7-8 months later than I did, but through collective knowlege of k-style growing, and a little bit of determination, he is now on par with me, cerb, and the rest of the Gladiator crew. How he gained all the knowlege that he knows now I have no clue, but it definately helped him along to know it.

A month or two ago, seeing double butterfly was rare. Now its pretty common place. Instafall, after showing everyone else how to do it, spread like the plague. If you can remember WAAAAY back, me and tehplague (i miss you!) experiemented with blocking and massiving techniques. These became THE definition for massive styles and blocking styles. Recently I found there is even a way to use massives so it is unblockable from all sides (no thanks to you cerb X_X) when used the correct way.


Speed is defined by style which is how you use your techniques. Techniques and styles are two seperate entities in gunz due to its strange nature. There are 3 known styles...

Basic Style : Using techniques without regard to your opponents status (location, action, and demenor)
Counter Style: Using techniques directly with regards to your opponents status.
Manipulation Style: Using techniques to force favorable opponents statuses.

Each of these styles can be used at any time based on your knowlege and skill level at the game. Manipulation can range from forcing a stun block by skyblocking into a butterfly, to forcing your opponent to turn around, exposing his or her back. Cerb uses about 90% manipulation and 10% counter now (from what ive seen). I use about 70% counter and 30% manipulation.


In gladiator there are a numorous amount of techniques that can be used in any match, and almost always are used.

Legslash, skyblock, groundblock, skyslash, reverse massive, skybreaker, groundbreaker, shieldbreaker, instakill, instafall, butterfly, double butterfly, voidstep, quickslash, double slash, stalk, extended massive, perfect gaurd...

Thats the ones off the top of my head.

[Diamons]

Originally Posted by Hymn

How he gained all the knowlege that he knows now I have no clue, but it definately helped him along to know it.

Never accept a loss. Keep trying. Instead of pulling out moves from your mind, study the moment you're at and think of a new combo right there.

I saw Enshoku do double butterfly and I mastered it off that one look.

[Hymnosi]

Originally Posted by Diamons

Never accept a loss. Keep trying. Instead of pulling out moves from your mind, study the moment you're at and think of a new combo right there.

I saw Enshoku do double butterfly and I mastered it off that one look.

Not all gladiator moves are as obvious as double bfly, instafall, and juggling. You KNOW this.

[Diamons]

Actually...I don't.

I just see a move, and react in a 6th sense.

[Hymnosi]

Originally Posted by Diamons

Actually...I don't.

I just see a move, and react in a 6th sense.

You cant tell me that skybreaker didnt confuse the hell out of you until someone explained it, or you heard some one explain it to someone else and learned it through synergy.


There is no possible way to "see" that move.

[Diamons]

I was watching the person's camera.