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Old 06-07-2008, 01:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Shotgun control ability..

Just wanted to see why pioneer could cause so much damage across the map.

Shotguns (Higher = less spread = more pellets will hit)

Breaker 3,5, 6, 7, 8, 9P

Control ability = 60

Avenger 1 & 2

Control ability = 100


Pioneer

Control ability = 70

Shattered Iron

Control ability = 70


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Who'd a known 10 much more of a value could cause such annoyance -_-

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Heres some Revolver (Higher the more accurate = more chance of hitting)

Zaurus B

Control ability = 60
Damage = 50

Minic

Control ability = 60
Damage = 50

Dynax


Control ability = 72
Damage = 28

Peacemaker

Control ability = 90
Damage = 50

Level 54 revolvers "???"

Control ability = 72
Damage = 45
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Default Re: Shotgun control ability..

Whats control ability and how do you measure it?
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Old 06-07-2008, 02:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Whats control ability and how do you measure it?
It's the spread of fire on a weapon.


You shoot a shotgun, it will spread out like a cone, the more control ability, the less spread there is.



Avenger has the highest control ability, so it will deal alot more pellets to someone at medium range than any other weapon. Plus it has more damage so it will take ALOT of damage off at medium range than any other shogun.



The pioneer has 1 shot more than B8/B9 and higher control ability but same damage, but this control ability let's the pioneer hit more pellets on the enemy... dealing more damage.
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It's the spread of fire on a weapon.


You shoot a shotgun, it will spread out like a cone, the more control ability, the less spread there is.



Avenger has the highest control ability, so it will deal alot more pellets to someone at medium range than any other weapon. Plus it has more damage so it will take ALOT of damage off at medium range.
Is this some made up number or is it actually coded that way?
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Old 06-07-2008, 02:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Is this some made up number or is it actually coded that way?
it is coded in the zitem file of the system.mrs, easy to find, just that it's been locked up because of hackers, luckily i had an old system.mrs to unpack and i looked it up.



You can look at the control ability of premium shotguns in the item shop.
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Spread decreases as ctrl_ability gets closer to 0.
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Old 06-07-2008, 03:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Spread decreases as ctrl_ability gets closer to 0.
that would make no sense.
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ShotGuns > any other gun.
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Spread decreases as ctrl_ability gets closer to 0.
Bingo .
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Spread decreases as ctrl_ability gets closer to 0.
Then those numbers are off because Pioneer has less spread than others. I'm pretty certain.
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ShotGuns > any other gun.
zzzzz Shotguns are only called "pro" coz you dont need to learn to aim and it deals good dmg....>< cheap weps...
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Default Re: Shotgun control ability..

Pi is right. Iron crow revs are the most consistent and they have controllability of 36. Also dynax and new revs(also dynax) are higher and have terrible spread.

On a side note... WHY DO THE PEACEMAKERS SUCK SO MUCH?!?! Least accurate rev.... same damage as level 36 too.

Personal theory: controllability of 0 is not better than 1. Look at the description of cruz.. yet it has cont of 0.
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Default Re: Shotgun control ability..

Wow I just bought a peacemaker....oh well they look hot
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Wow I just bought a peacemaker....oh well they look hot
Well try using the and tell me if for any reason at all they are effective.
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that would make no sense.
Are you telling me it'd make more sense if spread decreased as it got higher and approached infinity? Besides being obviously right, 0 is an absolute minimum and is a much more logical place for perfect aim than 500000. If you're still convinced you're right, take a look at the SMGs. ctrl_ability over 100, they must be pretty accurate according to your logic.
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