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Old 05-10-2008, 09:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default AryaZephyr[Part 3] -> Shooting.. The ~RIGHT~ way *With some spread theorum!*

Leaving off from Male VS Female Breakthrough Part 2: Spread theorum continued.

First I'd like to thank Zanoken. He gave me the idea of experimenting with trying to shoot my shots to the right. He claimed some Japanese player shot from the right, thus so he didn't kill himself with rocket. I didn't look for any information on how he did it. I just read this, jumped in game and started playing around eventually.. I shot to the right! Now I think I took this a little further than just shooting to the right. Heres all the details.

For the sake of Ijji GunZ, and no one previously posting this in such detail, I have added this move to the Zephyr series and named it "Zephyr SlashShot/Halfstep/Whatever/" As it's not 100% original by any means. I just decided to tag my name onto it, instead of giving it some crazy unique one.



See where the shot source has came from, the lower right half of my character!



As you can see, like the left shot it hits walls and other objects in its way. But unlike the left hand shot.. You can shoot people around corners! Much better than tumbling into a wall and trying to shoot through it.



Theres me dieing by my friend, from getting owned. He stayed in that position the whole time, did a ZSS and smoked me.!

Also the spread more than often turns out in a diagonal-upwards motion[At close range at least]. Making it great for PBing someone undefended such as a dagger user, or air fighter.



This move takes a huge amount of timing and can be very aggravating. Before you start mashing and trying different strokes. Do a couple slash shots without actually shooting, notice for a fragment of time near the end the gun tilts to the bottom right as it's being returned to neutral position. Thats your time to click.



The above diagram is the prime time to shoot.

Now we have a female character which can shoot to the left, center, or the right! It would seem the balance of power between males and females is tipping..

ZSS Demonstration - As the name says

FUMETSUROCKETSHOT - A REPLAY OF FUMETSU SHOOTING A ROCKET TO THE LEFT, CENTER, AND TO THE RIGHT. THE REASON THIS WAS DONE IS BECAUSE THE SMOKE MAKES THE PATH OF DIRECTION VERY VISIBLE.
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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no BODY CARES.

sorry sir
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:26 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Leaving off from Male VS Female Breakthrough Part 2: Spread theorum continued.

First I'd like to thank Zanoken. He gave me the idea of experimenting with trying to shoot my shots to the right. He claimed some Japanese player shot from the right, thus so he didn't kill himself with rocket. I didn't look for any information on how he did it. I just read this, jumped in game and started playing around eventually.. I shot to the right! Now I think I took this a little further than just shooting to the right. Heres all the details.

For the sake of Ijji GunZ, and no one previously posting this in such detail, I have added this move to the Zephyr series and named it "Zephyr SlashShot/Halfstep/Whatever/" As it's not 100% original by any means. I just decided to tag my name onto it, instead of giving it some crazy unique one.



See where the shot source has came from, the lower right half of my character!



As you can see, like the left shot it hits walls and other objects in its way. But unlike the left hand shot.. You can shoot people around corners! Much better than tumbling into a wall and trying to shoot through it.



Theres me dieing by my friend, from getting owned. He stayed in that position the whole time, did a ZSS and smoked me.!

Also the spread more than often turns out in a diagonal-upwards motion[At close range at least]. Making it great for PBing someone undefended such as a dagger user, or air fighter.



This move takes a huge amount of timing and can be very aggravating. Before you start mashing and trying different strokes. Do a couple slash shots without actually shooting, notice for a fragment of time near the end the gun tilts to the bottom right as it's being returned to neutral position. Thats your time to click.



The above diagram is the prime time to shoot.

Now we have a female character which can shoot to the left, center, or the right! It would seem the balance of power between males and females is tipping..

ZSS Demonstration - As the name says

FUMETSUROCKETSHOT - A REPLAY OF FUMETSU SHOOTING A ROCKET TO THE LEFT, CENTER, AND TO THE RIGHT. THE REASON THIS WAS DONE IS BECAUSE THE SMOKE MAKES THE PATH OF DIRECTION VERY VISIBLE.
The shots come from where your crosshair is.

That being said tumble on the right side of a wall does shoot through it.

Even if what you say is true, this would only be relevant if you potshotted alot.
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I don't get it. O_o

Does this have anything to do with how during a SS(and its variations) animation, the character swings the gun left, and the shot actually travels from the gun from where it was during the shot to where your crosshair is aimed at, allowing you to use the animation to stick your gun around corners and fire? If so, I'm not sure how it's done to the right.
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hmm gonna check the replay's
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The shots come from where your crosshair is.

That being said tumble on the right side of a wall does shoot through it.

Even if what you say is true, this would only be relevant if you potshotted alot.
The shot doesn't come from where the xhair is, watch the fumetsu replay please, it clearly shows the shot coming from far left, center, and right to the xhair.


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Does this have anything to do with how during a SS(and its variations) animation, the character swings the gun left, and the shot actually travels from the gun from where it was during the shot to where your crosshair is aimed at, allowing you to use the animation to stick your gun around corners and fire? If so, I'm not sure how it's done to the right.
Again, please watch the fumetsu replay. As for how it's done to the right.. did you read the post? lol It's all about the timing.
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Default Re: AryaZephyr[Part 3] -> Shooting.. The ~RIGHT~ way *With some spread theorum!*

Interesting stuffs. Good job. Hope to see more of this posted. ;>
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fixed if you sliding ss instead of aerial one, cuz it goes where xhair is
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I don't get it. O_o

Does this have anything to do with how during a SS(and its variations) animation, the character swings the gun left, and the shot actually travels from the gun from where it was during the shot to where your crosshair is aimed at, allowing you to use the animation to stick your gun around corners and fire? If so, I'm not sure how it's done to the right.
The replay should display it. And read the previous parts, if understood properly it should all add up. If not I can show you in game.


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The shots come from where your crosshair is.

That being said tumble on the right side of a wall does shoot through it.

Even if what you say is true, this would only be relevant if you potshotted alot.
False. It has way more uses it can be applied to. I've given you guys the tools now figure out what to do with them.
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The replay should display it. And read the previous parts, if understood properly it should all add up. If not I can show you in game.




False. It has way more uses it can be applied to. I've given you guys the tools now figure out what to do with them.
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In my opinion this guide is much more useful and relevant than the male vs female threads.

Thanks and gj Zeph, + rep
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o i need 2 spread more rep :P
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Old 05-10-2008, 11:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
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In my opinion this guide is much more useful and relevant than the male vs female threads.

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Your welcome. It's nice to see at least one person advancing at least a LITTLE bit due to my findings.
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Wow arya im very very impressed with this.. I'll +rep on my other account... wow this is really very helpful, thanks arya! <3 to you!
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