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Old 07-14-2006, 09:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Uh, I decided I should post why trading accounts, is not allowed in GunZ.
Trading accounts is getting more popular in GunZ (sadly), and people fail to realize that they are breaking agreements they made when they registered for GunZ: The Duel. To trade an account is to ask for another user's account name and password.

All resources that I will be using to prove why trading accounts is 'illegal' in GunZ are directly from www.gunzonline.com, in the License Agreement.

When you registered an account for GunZ, you pressed Join at the top-right corner of the site. A license agreement pops up, and states the rules you must abide by when playing GunZ: The Duel.

This Topic Will Cover The Following:
1) Why you are not allowed to Trade Accounts
2) Why you are not allowed to Steal Accounts (Isnt that obvious)
3) Why you are not allowed to Sell your Account


I will post only the Articles of the License Agreement that are relevant to my topic.

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The first Article that talks about Account Safety is Article 7. This article tells you that the MAIET company will NEVER ask your the details of your account, except in one case, which is Account Restoration. When this happens, they still will not ask for a password, only your account name and a replay, and a few other things. (Read Article 11)

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Article 7 Obligations of the Company

1. In the event of problems identified in the terms of service, the Company shall quickly act to resolve said problem. If said resolution is difficult to achieve, the Company shall notify the user by email, outlining the reasons for any delays in resolving the problem, and a trouble shooting schedule
2. The Company shall not use or divulge to any third party any information acquired from the user for purposes other than those pertaining to direct communication between the Company and user in the absence of advance consent from the user for any other use. Notwithstanding this, information shall be utilized and/or divulged to relevant third parties if required to conduct an investigation based on related laws and regulations.
3. The Company endeavors to make it clear that it shall comply with the policy of protecting its users privacy and private information.
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Article 8 is one of the most important Articles about Account info.
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Article 8 Obligations of the User

1. The user shall notify the Company immediately of any change to personal information. In the event the user effects registration using information of a third person, he or she shall not be eligible for any protection from the Company.
2. The user shall not commit any activities that may harm the well-being of the public or disrupt the order or social and public morals.
3. The user shall not improperly utilize the user account of another person.
4. Unless it is allowed by the Company, the user shall not utilize the service for activities to make profit.

5. The user shall comply with the provisions of this Agreement and related laws and regulations and he or she shall not be involved in any activities that may pose obstacle to the provision of the service.
Carefully read Sections 2,3,4,
2- This states, obviously what it says. As a user, you are not allowed to harm the public/community. Hey! Isnt hacking harming the community? I wonder why its not allowed.
3- This states that when you have another person account in your hands (not that you should have it anyway!) you are not allowed to use it improperly, e.g. bad talking people with it, spend their bounty. Most people do this after stealing an account.
4- This states you are not allowed to sell your account for any amount of money or profit, unless it is permitted by the Company.

Section 5 is probably important as well, I just dont know why. Rofl.

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Article 11 User Account and ID

1. The Company shall manage the user account and ID in order to protect the information of the user, and to provide information or other convenient services to them. The user shall not be permitted to change or modify the user account on his/her own accord.
2. The user shall be held responsible for any damage the user suffers as a result of not heeding warnings or advice of the management regarding his or her user account, or of any unjust use of the account by a third party. The Company shall not be held responsible for damage or loss arising out of any said circumstances.
3. The Company may initialize information of the account used during the 'Test' period.
1- This includes your account restoration, which I mentioned earlier.
2- This states if you let out your account information, (trade accounts) MAIET is not responsible for it, and there is probably nothing they can do, or they probably wont do anything about it.
Section 3 isnt too much important.

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Article 12 Service Account and Password

1. The user shall bear full responsibility for the management of his/her account and password. The user shall take full responsibility for any damage caused by a third party who utilizes the users account, be it authorized or unauthorized. The Company shall bear no responsibility for damage or loss under said circumstances.
2. An ID registered in one single account may not gain simultaneous access.
YES! This is the most important article, I believe, to why you arent allowed to trade accounts.
1- This states that when you trade an account, you are COMPLETELY responsible for what may happen to it.
2- This, I think is the most important Section. I believe this means that you(the registered user) are the only one allowed to access your account and its contents, and no other user is. Or does it mean that only one char can be used at a time? Who knows.

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Article 13 Restriction of the Utilization of Service

1. The Company may restrict the use of the service, or take other measures, such as, but not limited to, the suspension or deletion (retrieval) of the ID in the event that the user:
1) unrightfully utilizes the personal information, ID, password and/or other information of another person;
2) uses indecent language or makes insulting remarks despite receiving a warning to refrain from doing so;
3) is engaged in promotional or sales activities in order to profit from the service or the web site;
4) acts in such a way as may be likely to hinder the service;
5) poses a physical or mental threat to the safety and comfort of others, such as, but not limited to, teasing another (specific) user;
6) misrepresents oneself as the GM or as an employee of the Company;
7) modifies client programs of the 'GUNZ' or hacks the server, and/or alters part or whole of the web site without securing prior admission therein, and permission thereto, from the Company;
8) reveals or sells personal information of another person, or any other information in violation of relevant privacy protection rules;
9) forms informal groups to the exclusion of others based on race, gender, religion, or any other cultural or social prejudice;
10) transfers or sells ones account to a third party;
11) sells an item obtained from the service;
12) misuses, or takes advantage of, a bug in the program;
13) inserts or applies any content to the game or website that may infringe upon the copyright of a third party;
14) deliberately causes confusion among other users by creating an ID similar to that of the game operator;
15) employs insulting, degrading, or offensive language, or any language which is likely to remind other users of insulting, degrading, or offensive language, in the formation of his/her ID.
Hmm, maybe I was wrong. Perhaps this is the most important Article. As well as being the most important, it is also the most clear, so I shouldnt have to explain the importance of Article 13, Section 1, Sub-Sections 1-15)

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I think thats it.

Potentially Frequently Asked Questions:

Q: Who actually reads these License Agreements?!
A: You probably should have.


Haha, thats it.
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Old 07-14-2006, 10:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Oh noes. Did I post this in Briefing Room? Dang!!!!!!!
Someone move this to the right section >_>

Haha, I'm not asking a question!
What is it, move to.. Garrison? I considered Bounty Stockpile but this isnt a guide. Or is it. =O Yeah this belongs in the Bounty Stockpile, information

EDIT: Double post wtf.
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Old 07-14-2006, 10:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 07-14-2006, 10:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 07-15-2006, 03:22 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Zomfg, any mods on? Haha, I would really like this to be moved. =O
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this is in the wrong place stoopid ^_^ lol
anyways its stupid to do that in the first place cause they could give u crap information
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Old 07-15-2006, 04:33 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Zomfg, any mods on? Haha, I would really like this to be moved. =O
Done. It would be faster if you reported it to be moved.
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Thanks for taking your time to make this thread and explaining the user agreement. I really appreciate it.
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very nice Neekz. Someone's getting the word out to all them E-bay users selling their accounts >_<
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1. The user shall bear full responsibility for the management of his/her account and password. The user shall take full responsibility for any damage caused by a third party who utilizes the users account, be it authorized or unauthorized. The Company shall bear no responsibility for damage or loss under said circumstances.
2. An ID registered in one single account may not gain simultaneous access.

YES! This is the most important article, I believe, to why you arent allowed to trade accounts.
1- This states that when you trade an account, you are COMPLETELY responsible for what may happen to it.
2- This, I think is the most important Section. I believe this means that you(the registered user) are the only one allowed to access your account and its contents, and no other user is. Or does it mean that only one char can be used at a time? Who knows.

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Maiet specifically mention that users bear full responsibility for other users accessing their account whether it was AUTHORISED or UNAUTHORISED. Doesn't that show that maiet would already expect people to allow other users to use their account. (If they didn't why would they mention that users can grant authorised access to their account, but take full responsibility for it)

The fact in the matter is that the policy says it is wrong to make profit with the transfer of your account from one user to another but is not wrong to allow other users access to your account.

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1) unrightfully utilizes the personal information, ID, password and/or other information of another person;
When it says "unrightfully utilizes the personal information etc etc" this means that a user cannot steal another users account. However when a person trades their account and gets scammed, the other user technically, hasn't unrightfully utilized the account information as the person has agreed to give it.

Now i'm not in favor of trading accounts and I dont really see what people gain out of trading accounts when it gains them a couple levels that you'll eventually gain anyway. But, I just thought i should point that out to you.
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[quote=moo-cow-moo]Maiet specifically mention that users bear full responsibility for other users accessing their account whether it was AUTHORISED or UNAUTHORISED. Doesn't that show that maiet would already expect people to allow other users to use their account. (If they didn't why would they mention that users can grant authorised access to their account, but take full responsibility for it)

The fact in the matter is that the policy says it is wrong to make profit with the transfer of your account from one user to another but is not wrong to allow other users access to your account.

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When it says "unrightfully utilizes the personal information etc etc" this means that a user cannot steal another users account. However when a person trades their account and gets scammed, the other user technically, hasn't unrightfully utilized the account information as the person has agreed to give it.

Now i'm not in favor of trading accounts and I dont really see what people gain out of trading accounts when it gains them a couple levels that you'll eventually gain anyway. But, I just thought i should point that out to you.
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almost no one read A license agreement its most of the times too long
and/or is almost for evry thing the same
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