Revolver x2 & Sword Guide

[Zanoken]

Version 1.0

March 2008

Content:

I. Intro
II. Tactics
Ammo Conservation
Sniping
Swords and Combos
Map Control
Team Play
III. Mechanics
Recoil
Damage
Accuracy
Slashshot
Tumble
YoYo
IV. Aiming
Shot Angles
List of Firing Locations
V. Aiming (Specific Play Styles)
Tortoise
Butterflier or Double Butterflier
Flash Stepper or Dodger
Shotgun Spammer
D-Styler
Everything Else
VI. Crosshairs
VII. Replays





Guide Format

ALL CAPS = EMPHASIS
Italics = Special Note
=== = New Chapter

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I. Intro

Since you are reading this guide you probably want to, or have tried to, use revolvers successfully but failed to do so. This guide will hopefully lead you into the right direction by helping you understand the power of this “seemingly” difficult to use weapon, and how to outwit, and outplay, your opponents regardless of what weapons you are up against. This is NOT a gladiator guide, the title may indicate otherwise, but that will be explained in the tactics section. This guide is to show you how to WIN with revolvers. If you only play for fun and don’t care if you lose to just about every shotgun user out there, you should stop reading here. This guide is a collection of knowledge one player (me) accumulated over months of playing GunZ: The Duel and is strictly opinion based. This guide cannot perform miracles. If you are incompetent at GunZ, you should try reading some other guides and playing a bit more before reading this.

OK, now let's get down to business. (…cause we all know GunZ is serious business.)

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II. Tactics

The first thing that needs to be understood is what a revolver is: it's a sniping gun, so you are obviously going to be sniping with it accordingly. IF YOU ARE TRYING TO PLAY AT POINT BLANK RANGE WITH THEM TOO MUCH, YOU ARE USING THEM WRONG. You are, in fact, taking away half of the advantage of the gun and only hindering yourself.

Ammo Conservation

The most overlooked, but one of the most important, if not the most important skill besides aiming is conserving your ammo. If you cannot reload well, you are going to put yourself in bad situations. Constantly being in bad situations and at a disadvantage means you are losing.

Conserve your ammo by not spamming when you are in the open with no means to hide and reload. Typically, you want the enemy as far away as possible while you reload, unless you have a plan of action that’s done without the opponent getting free shots on you. Also, keep in mind you may be the best DBF or sword combo-er in GunZ, but it is NOT worth sacrificing your precious health bar to get close to the enemy. The general rule is to always SAFELY reload first BEFORE you do any thing else.

Sniping

For the most part, you will probably end up spamming, but if you are at long range you should be OK to safely reload before you are in any danger. Be careful, shotgun spray will do nasty chip damage, so you are better off: (a) not shooting and just reload; (b) long range HS/SS, or whatever dodging + shooting movement you prefer; (c) SAFELY potshot. In most situations, you are better off spamming to do max damage, and there is another reason which will be explained later in the mechanics section.

Swords and Combos

The reason you should equip a sword is not just because you want to block or do a little more damage per slash: it's because you obtain greater combo ability with a sword. When a revolver wielder utilizes combos, sword and revolver become a synchronized weapon that can annihilate your opponent as fast as a shotgun does in close combat. E.g. a few sword slashes, followed by a quick point blank slashshot, ended with another shot to the feet; can devastate an opponent. With Zaurus B x2 those shots come out so rapidly that the opponent can not move to avoid them in most cases, and nearly all damage is dealt to HP. That's about 120+ damage done directly to HP in under 1 second.

Using your sword is generally encouraged when you have the enemy low on health, ammo, or desperate. Attempting to sword an opponent with high or spikey ping to you is an option, but I will not encourage it. We are assuming the player is as good as or better than you.

Map Control

In team games having great map control (total control and awareness of your surroundings and movements) can be more important than almost any skill besides aiming, and in some situations IS more important than just plain aiming. You may find on some maps you get hit more and die easier, or you get double teamed or trapped more than you think you should. You may have even learned the hard way that having no map control can ruin your aim or entire play style. That is probably because you have little to no clue how to play on that specific map without leaving yourself open and showing weaknesses, or how to move in a way which allows yourself better shot opportunities. To correct this problem, you are going to have to play those maps you are lacking in more and THINK about what you are doing wrong.

Sound play is a vital part of map control, so turn your music down or sound up so you can react properly.

Team Play

You are going to have to communicate with your teammates and make sure they know how you are going to play. If they cannot survive double or triple team, they need to get their asses over to where you are or play like you. A team of revolver users can be nasty and make shotgun users piss their pants afraid to go out in the open.

Be wary of teammates that chase your target out of your shot range, or behind walls were you can‘t help or snipe. (Extremely unintelligent play style here that happens much more often than desired.)

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III. Mechanics

Before we get into aiming, I decided to add this section because I don't think you can use revolvers to their full potential until you get a grasp of how the weapon actually works in a technical sense.


Recoil

Any revolver user should already know by now how the recoil works. Simply put, when shooting rapidly, after the first initial shot your accurate is basically cut to about half each consecutive time it's fired. You simply switch to your other gun to prevent this.

Damage

Revolvers do about 70% damage to HP on body shots, and about 90% on head shots. This means you will kill in 3-5 shots depending on the HP of the victim, or if you headshot or not. Using Zaurus B x2 / Minic 567 MK. II x2 the scale goes somewhat like this:

Premless - 3-4 shots.
Full Unlimited/Early Prems - 3-4 shots.
Newest Limited Prems (Deities) - 3-5 shots.
Full Anti Rev Gear - 4-5 shots

The latter number is how many shots it will usually take. I highly doubt anyone can accomplish all headshots kills often.

Swords do relatively 70% to HP also. Their damage adds up when used in combination with revolvers.

Accuracy

First off, revolvers are NOT 100% accurate at a certain range. Putting your crosshairs on a stationary target and shooting will NOT lead to perfectly centered shots every time, no matter how slow you shoot. I’m sure by now you have noticed your piers make statements like “revolvers are very accurate”.That is somewhat true, but the accuracy isn't as good as you are lead to believe, in actuality, it’s overrated. I regularly point my tiny dot crosshair under a car on an opponent’s feet that’s healing; however, when I fire the bullets can fail to make contact with their poor little vulnerable footsies and decide to kill the car or ground instead. Those are golden opportunities and that can be frustrating if you are relying on revolver’s “perfect aim“.

You have to be aware of this fact when you are sniping, which is why I suggest spamming when at long range for max hit potential. Of course, you will be leading and aiming accordingly while you do so. Spam does not mean spray aimlessly, but adding in the fact of how much ping, lag, and bad hitbox coding will dramatically affect your damage per second, it’s the most logical course of action. (When you can do it safely with room to reload, and have ammo to spare of course). When shooting some pings you may find times when you might actually be spraying or at least it may LOOK that way to those viewing you, but that is a GOOD thing.

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Slashshot

Slashshot or any variation of it will significantly change your shot angles and firing location, and could make a nearly perfectly placed shot miss totally, or make the shot hit on your screen, but the opponent is unaffected because the angle allows them to dash or move one millimeter past it. This is most important when you point blank SS fast with revolvers, (e.g. I have point blank SS opponents with male characters while my crosshair is above their heads and the shot hits their feet or legs when my character is still mid air above them.) If you want to elude this problem, you will either have to aim slower and let your firing angle go back to normal center position (not recommend - see italic note below), or just avoid point blank range all together(recommended if you cannot compensate.) Yoyo is another option, but I do not find d-style movement extremely useful when encountering some sword heavy opponents with shotguns.

(I do not recommend this because you want to do as much damage as possible while you can, and doing the above will take away one of the advantages of using a revolver making you shoot like a shotgun or slower, only now you are doing 1/3 as much damage. While a quick revolver point blank slashshot combo can easily devastate enemies instead. Combos like one mentioned in the tactics portion of this guide is something you want to achieve if you want pointblank power with your revolvers. Slowing down hinders this ability greatly, and allows your opponents time to recover and counter attack.)

TYPICALLY, a slashshot with male characters will come from their legs and with female it will come from their far left side. This is because the shot comes from the end of their aerial slash animation. This is not always 100% true, because when I slashshot on some walls with a male character, I can make It hit inches over the head while my character or crosshair is no where near that spot (screenshots below). Strange right? I suspect some weird ricochet-esque glitch going on. As of now, no one can explain why that happens. But don’t worry about that too much. Just remember to adjust your shot slightly up for males, and slightly to right with females (depending on how fast your SS).

To me it feels like male characters don’t always pull revolvers out or shoot from the same spot every time, so you should probably make a mental note as to if it is worth it to slashshot at max speed when at point blank range.

Here are some in-game screenshots to give a visual illustration of what was just aforementioned:

Female

Male

@ Wall

Looking up

Looking up more

Looking up even more

ALL SHOTS STILL HIT HERE!

Strange Glitch?

Tumble

Tumbling locks your character in position for half a second, and can allow you to easily shoot opponents in a straight line while making your body smaller to avoid some shots. And during a certain animation of a tumble the shot comes low close to the ground. Believe it or not, in some situations this move could provide a chance of landing more successful shots than walking or slashshooting. So, you should not concern yourself with fear of using this basic but essential move when the opportunity present itself. However, keep in mind that this is in NO way abusable. Tumbling in general is a bad idea.

YoYo

A move overlooked by most sword wielders because of slashshot, but in actuality, is more suitable in many situations, (e.g. shooting over or around boxes, bunker walls, trucks, avoiding turtle, etc..) This becomes apparent when you are using male characters and firing your bullets into those boxes, bunker walls, trucks, etc. often, instead of where your crosshair or gun is pointing.

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IV. Aiming

Aiming and leading is probably the most difficult aspect for beginning to intermediate revolver users to deal with, and is the reason most players give up on them. I will make it simple for you: MISS YOUR SHOTS! That's right, YOU WANT TO MISS. If your shots are saying hit on your screen, you are actually missing the opponent. The only time you want to actually hit is when the player is AFK or standing still and typing. This might confuse you, but it's true with this weapon. Your goal should be: the lower the ping, the closer you want to aim at the player WITHOUT actually hitting on your screen. Of course, when a player moves in a straight line at you, you will most likely want to aim at them, but you will rarely have opponents dumb enough to do that too often, so that’s not worth mentioning, and it‘s obvious. You will just have to get in through your head to not worry about hitting until the player decides to make it easy for you and stand still. You want to basically focus on forcing the opponent into hitting themselves with your revolvers instead.

Under 25 ping you can try to actually start hitting. But I still suggest low ping lead until you play with your 2 ping sister in the room next door. (That sounded kinda perverted, didn’t it.. ..****in sicko! Get your head out of the gutter. -_-)

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Shot Angles

Shot angles (where the shot fires from and its' traveling trajectory) is/are something totally overlooked and probably could be argued are some times more important than which part of the body you shoot at. An unknowing player could be shooting and hitting 100% on their screen with revolvers at 30 ping, but if they are all bad shot angles, they will all miss. On the other hand, the same player could be hitting 100%, but this time half of the shots are at a good firing position and angle, resulting in killing the opponent before reloading. Female characters with shotguns benefit greatly from the left side shots, a player could miss totally with the crosshair behind the player to the right, but the shot comes way out from the left so it somehow magically hits full PB. A lot of players will get lucky like this when they are spamming too fast. (Tip: Avoid female shotgun user’s left side if they shoot this way. That would be your right.) I personally don't use revolvers with females because of this, but I'm sure those who strictly use females could compensate. Shot angles are another key reason I advocate staying away from PB range. You get better angles the further away you keep your target allowing you to hit more.

Some good examples of bad shot angles are, shooting at an opponent while you both are half-stepping (left -> right or vice versa) at near point blank range, or flying over an opponent and shooting directly down under you. 90% percent of the time those shots will be a waste of ammo. You want your shot to go in a straight line at the target NOT sideways or diagonal. You want to allow your opponent the opportunity to run into your shots.

I find that flying makes the shots easier, and in most cases will allow the best shot angle with the added benefit of providing more time to focus and precisely aim while dodging.

Here are a few small diagram examples:

In the above picture if your target moves a little to the left (your right), or is descending from the air, you have less chance for a successful hit with female’s slashshot compared to the male’s, even though the crosshair is pointing at the same spot.

Slashshot unlocks the camera, so you are free to swing your crosshairs like so, but doing so can lead to some less than satisfactory results like the last diagram shown below.
An example of a female character miss due to a bad angle. The target is dashing in the opposite direction of what is ideal for that shot trajectory. This shot will miss regardless of if you hit on your screen. This shot would be a miss even on ping as low as 20-30; however, the male character’s shot connects a little easier with less need for perfect lead. Both are bad angles.

List of Firing Location
Use this list to adjust your aim when firing at PB accordingly.

Male

Standing, walking, tumbling, and yoyo-ing: Diagonally down-Left slightly from the crosshair. (Simply where the tip of the guns are pointing.)
Slashshot: Generally, from below your characters thighs as illustrated in the pictures earlier. (Not 100% of the time.)
Tumbling (during the “roll“): Low to the ground. (This is when the character is about to end the tumble and stand again.)

Female

Standing, walking, tumbling, and yoyo-ing: Diagonally down-left slightly from the crosshair. (Simply where the tip of the gun are pointing.)
Slashshot: From the far left side at the height of the head of your character as previously illustrated. (the slower you wait to fire, the closer to your character the shot moves until it's center again)
Tumbling (during the “roll“): Low to the ground. This is when the character is about to end the tumble and stand again.

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V. Aiming And Tactics (Specific Play Styles)

This section will assume that the opponent is as good as or better than you. Take this “with a grain of salt“, because you want to avoid always playing the same way versus every opponent. It’s optimal to adapt in different situations and to different opponents in this game, and in any game.

Tortoise

Easy lead until they start jumping or move right when you shoot abusing lag. It is almost impossible to hit these opponents with real aim like this, unless you area psychic. Revolvers aren't shotguns, you can't just aim at the feet and have it hit easy with the pellet spray when they try to abuse lag. A good approach is to not let them get close and just snipe from as far away as you can. If you can't snipe that is when your sword skills should come in handy. A nice sword combo ending with a few revolver shots to the feet does the job nicely. Flip them if they are being careless with their turtle, or insta them if need be. Keep in mind that if you are going to be swording, THEY have the advantage and have you right were they want you. Always remember, one lucky massive, and two point blank shots from shotguns means you are in a body bag.

When pings are low enough you can safely shoot feet without any worry, but still be wary of skilled turtle.

Butterflier or Double Butterflier

Honestly, probably the hardest to lead on with revolvers, because half the shots will probably be blocked or miss. Again, revolvers aren't shotguns, so you need a perfectly lead shot to feet which is nearly impossible at some pings, and requires so much concentration that you would probably end up leaving yourself open for a nice shotgun blast if you aren't careful. If you spam at them you will probably waste your ammo. I suggest sniping from as far as possible, try to get behind them as much as possible, and out-swording them when up close ONLY as a last resort. Again, massive, 2 PB, and you are dead.

Most players will tell you to turtle a BF or DBF, but using turtle, in most cases, is consider desperate and will get you slaughtered effortlessly by any player that can shoot a gun or rocket at your feet. Not being able to basically instant kill in two shots with reload shot takes away the usefulness of doing this also.

Flash Stepper or Dodger

Waste of ammo. Don't shoot. Let them relax their movement to shoot at you and get your shots in then, or just avoid them until you can get them to go where you want and get your shots in then. DO NOT try to stand and spam while letting them get close or you will be losing chunks of health when they pull of their shotguns, potshot instead. It you are forced to exchange blows with them. It’s best to dodge HARD also, and avoid the shotgun's spray as much as possible while you SS/HS/YoYo/etc. with aim/lead.

Shotgun Spammer

Using the strategy Iayed-out in the sniping section, you should be victorious almost every time. If the opponent is spamming, they are leaving themselves open for easy hits and your revolvers are faster with more ammo.

D-Styler

The general concept of what was covered earlier apply here; however, now you have the option to start using your sword more than usual because you have the melee advantage.

Everything Else

The general sniping criteria provided earlier apply here also, including but not limited to rocketeers, automatic gun users, and sword heavy opponents.

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VI. Crosshairs

Use an accurate small dot crosshairs for maximum sniping efficiency, especially for sniping properly under cars and shooting the head over boxes and bunkers.

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VII. Replays

These are recent games of mine that demonstrate the general concept of what was conveyed in this guide. I'm not using my sword in any of these, so I will post other replays later in an update that show some combo-ing.

Team Revs (2on2)
Me and a teammate using revolvers in Garden - 90 ping on both victims.
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Random #1 (2on2)
Town TDM pings 40 and probably 70+? (I don’t know…the other one was kinda laggy player to me) for the other. Notice all shots that “hit” don’t count on the 40 pinger with revs - swan. This is why you miss and lead.
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Mini CW (2on2)
Just normal playing in town TDM - 40 and 100 Ping.
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Download the text file of this guide (viewable in MS word/works + there’s an extra .txt for notepad.)
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[Zanoken]

Expect an update in the future with more details about accuracy/damage for each revolver series (including new ones). I would need to do some REAL tests first. Which would be getting statistics from x out of 100+ shots. (NO, doing x out 6 like someone already did isn’t enough to tell which guns is more accurate. That‘s why their results are so random.) Someone else could do it or multiple people. You just need to:

1. Get a 100% accurate x-hair (use x-hair 4 if you can’t tell if your custom X is 100%)
2. Put your fire key somewhere on the keyboard (the mouse could/will move when you click even if you don’t notice, so put in on the keyboard)
3. Have yourself and a friend/victim stand in the same spot across a long map (it’s best to put the victim in a corner so they don’t move/slide when you hit. And it’s faster/easier for them to get in the same spot after dying without you even needing to touch your mouse.
4. Now aim at the very center of stomach and shoot very slowly to not get recoil.
5. Count your hits until you are empty. You should get something like 30/46 then repeat.

That is the only way to get a real feel of how accurate a gun is.

[Inunitsa]

osht pro guide

[Rantanplan]

omg you put lots of effort into this one. gj I will +rep you after having 100 posts lulz

[aoshima]

i cant aim with revs..
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[BigD]

Nice guide. I occasionally use the Rev + Shotgun combination o_o

[Sfactors]

Need a good example of a dot crosshair? Stop down by the crosshair section and download Accura-Dot!

[Noric]

Originally Posted by Sfactors

Need a good example of a dot crosshair? Stop down by the crosshair section and download Accura-Dot!

God you are as bad as scuba when it comes to his own guide........ dot works though.

[SonicShot]

Originally Posted by Noric

God you are as bad as scuba when it comes to his own guide........ dot works though.

lol'd at that papasmurf

[Mad Hank]

Wtf is this....

[Remorsed]

Nice guide, +rep after I reach 100 posts.

[yan_yan28]

Maybe it is better to be in a good Font text, so that it can easily understand,
And why is your Level is 30723 and ur UN is Maiet, hehe are you staff?
hmm Anyway, 10claps for your guide, Nice job,

[kissmydi*]

holy sht that was long