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Old 09-03-2006, 04:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question H-Style. I need Help.

I have been playing gunz alot to pass time during the summer. I went from a newb to a very good E-style player very quickly. As soon as those annoying "error: agent not available" came up, I googled for help and found this awsome site called GunzFactor. I started to look into the different styles of play and learned that I was mainly using E-style.
After a few days I learned what K-style was (animation canceling woot!). I tried for a while to mimic what other players were doing. Then the guides were made. I learned how to butterfly and am working on slashshot. My biggest problem is switching back to the sword after I shoot to be able to dash again. And the Reload shot is confusing me as well.

I know H-style is a mix between the difficult and amazing K-style combined with the spray/sniping + battle stratagy of E-Style. H-Style seemed to be something i would like because i like dodging and i am a very good shot + being able to combined the best of both styles seems like a supurb idea.

The problem is, what weapons/armor/items should i use, and I also need someone to do some one on one training. Sadly though, I am still only lvl 23 (and 57%) because those error messaged keep comming up.
I am very good with the rifle(maxwell LX 30) and my revs(Zarius A). I use 2 sets of 2 cannon Fg1, a light weight sword and the rest is armor and rings.

I would really like someone to do some in game teaching with me. Because school is starting for me on tuesday, I won't get much time for myself until Saturday. My char is male w/ the name Krytos_Gamma, and my clan is Amunz.
I would love to get some instruction on what to do and buy so i can spend my money wisely.

Also, because the suggestion thing is too long for what changes gunz should have. Shotguns need an incresed rate of fire and only wiegh 18 lbs and rev/pistols should weigh about 12-16 lbs (duel only). I hunt and i know a shotgun + ammo doesn't weigh 20 lbs and they are very rapid fireing wepons.

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Old 09-03-2006, 05:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'll be happy to teach you. I'm mostly on server 2. Whisper Triactive or Shjizo (Mostly Triactive) sometimes. You can find me in elite channel 1.
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Old 09-03-2006, 06:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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There is NO such thing as H-style... you are talking about Hybrid. It is not a style, its a breed from two styles combined. Get it? Got it? Good.

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Old 09-03-2006, 07:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: H-Style. I need Help.

ok, but what wepons/armor/items should i go with?
and which is really more important DPS or the Rate of Fire.
rev or pistol?
and how much damage does a shotgun actually do? i have seen it at least to 50.
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Entreri: "Shocking."
"Your friend is dead," Entreri said again, and the dwarf didn't bother to argue the point." And so now you've a choice."
"Eat him or starve?" Athrogate asked.
"Eat him and eventually starve anyway," Jarlaxle corrected.

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Old 09-04-2006, 07:45 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Lightbulb Re: H-Style. I need Help.

good shottys do over 100 dmg
pistols rate of fire and dmg are good i suggest raptor over raven because of faster shooting
a good rev shot is deadly get to the lvl in wich you can buy phantom cruise N for a good 46 dmg a shot try learning how to hs fast its what makes a shotty worthwhile

il suggest u buy
Raptor 120 x2 just 900 bounty
Phantom Cruise N x2 a good 4500 bounty
Breaker 6 wich u can get for 1600 bounty
Vinz Long Coat just1600 bounty
Ares Iron Gloves just 1000 bounty
Webs Blue Jeans a good 3000 bounty
Ares Iron Shoes just 1000 bounty
Military Sword just 600 bounty (its heavier then light weight but does more dmg)
Pierre's Ring x2 1000 bounty each

Total cost is 16200 bounty (u alrdy should have the most parts tho so the costs will be below this)

now for your eqpment in lvls
u can carry a total of 100 weight so for long ranged lvls this:
Ares Iron Shoes weight 8 AP20
Webs Blue Jeans weight 14 AP23
Ares Iron Gloves weight 8 AP15
Vinz Long Coat weight 16 AP22
Pierre's Ring x2 weight 4 AP16
Military Sword weight 12
Phantom Cruise N x2 weight 16
Raptor 120 x2 weight 14
Canox FG1 x2 weight 4

(wearing the above eqpment will give you 100HP 96AP weight96)

the eqpment for medium and short ranged lvls should be the same exept replace Phantom Cruise Nx2 for Breaker 6 and u should do fine

(wearing the above eqpment will give you 100HP 96AP weight100)

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Old 09-04-2006, 11:28 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: H-Style. I need Help.

OK. a few more things.

One: I need to know exactly how to do reload shot. (CONFUSING AS HELL!!!)
(if u own at K-style all i have to say is "DAMN"!!!!!!! ur good).

Two: Thx for explain all that stuff w/ armor and about the shotgun.

Three: I know kodachi owns if used right. so would using them be a good idea? I need to know if k-style would work with them.

Four: Error: Agnet not available. This happens on/off every week. Someone FIX IT PLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Five: I noticed that everyone never increases their HP, is there a reason for that? I have it set up so I got 1 pierre ring and then the one that gives u +8 Hp(i have 108HP and 90AP) and most of the time i end up surviving on only a sliver of HP. so is HP increase > or < or = with AP increases?

6: What is better Avenger or Breaker 7? The Avenger More damge + less bullets and weight.

7: Everyone how do u get KGunz to work???? I got the translation thing and stuff and it still won't work.

8: thx to everyone that has given me help so far.

9: Hey check out the wiki in my sig... also how do i put an animation in my sig. do i need to submit it to a site or something pls help.

10:thx and May the schwarts be with you......(spaceballs own!!!!! =) )
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Jarlaxle: "Wouldn't have been the first time."
Entreri: "Shocking."
"Your friend is dead," Entreri said again, and the dwarf didn't bother to argue the point." And so now you've a choice."
"Eat him or starve?" Athrogate asked.
"Eat him and eventually starve anyway," Jarlaxle corrected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarlaxle
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Old 09-04-2006, 11:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: H-Style. I need Help.

Alright lets see I'm no pro but i'm pretty decent...
1) you don't need to know how to reload shot and in my opinion its a waste of time
2)Kodachi's are alright but they are way to heavy i'd stick with a sword
3)agent errors tend to happen nothign you can do about it
4) I prefer to increase hp cause it really helps when you come across the rev pros. me at you lvl had FMT ring and Warrior's Cry
5)Avenger=10 bullets so to me its not worth it(but then again I use Revolvers)

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Old 09-04-2006, 01:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Default Re: H-Style. I need Help.

You don't want to k-style using the scroll on your mouse. You should change the keyboard options in GunZ. I prefer the QFE stance. Read about all of it at the end of the k-style guide on the main site. http://gunzfactor.com/adv_korean.php (All credits to the maker)

This will help you with reload shot and most other k-style moves.

If you are going H-style (K and E) there is no point in learning reload shot unless you use only non-automatic weapons. You said you were good with rifle so use it. No need to learn reload shot.

Agent error is a very common error. There's a lot of advices to get rid of it here: http://www.gunzfactor.com/forums/technical_support/

It's mostly against revolvers HP counts a lot. You get more AP for the weight than you get HP, therefore it's best to chose AP.

For you the Avenger is probably the best.

We can't help you with getting into Korean GunZ. You probably wont be able to anyway. You need a KSSN. Only koreans has it.
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HP better than AP (8 HP over 10 AP) although the 5/5 ring is good if you are watching your weight.

AP over nades

Try pistols and if about as good with them as u are with rifles then use pistols/breaker (avenger only good to a K-Stylist who has mastered RS if it reloads the gun, and someone with amazing aim).
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Who made up H-Style?? and wtf is it?
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Default Re: H-Style. I need Help.

hybrids (h-stylers) do exist... even if u don't like them... we... do exist... and i didn't made it up... i made it cooler


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p.s 2. no, i can't not train you... even thou i think you'll be an awesome H-styler

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Old 09-07-2006, 05:12 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I know H-style is a mix between the difficult and amazing K-style combined with the spray/sniping + battle stratagy of E-Style. H-Style seemed to be something i would like because i like dodging and i am a very good shot + being able to combined the best of both styles seems like a supurb idea.
Wrong, Hybrid Style is the users personal style. Its not just K Style with revs

Just do your own thing and develope your own style, if you like rockets then use em, if you want to run around naken to wield 6 mgs then do it.
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Old 09-07-2006, 05:53 PM   #13 (permalink)
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For the weapons, I just make a quick review:
SMG: Short-medium range, ok power, fast rate, has recoil.
Rifle: All-range, ok power depending on type, fast rate
Shotgun: Short-short med, great power, slow rate
Rocket: Short-med, good power, slow rate, causes splash damage or AOE (Area of effect), too heavy.
Machine Gun: Short-Medium range, good power, fast rate, too heavy.
Pistol: All range, ok power, fast rate
Revolver: All range, good power, slow rate, has recoil.
Sword: Close range, good power, ok rate.
Kodachies (twin short blades): Close range, ok power, fast rate.
Dagger: Close range, not good power, very fast rate for a melee. Unable to block but its more responsive.

Its all personal choice really.
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Wrong, Hybrid Style is the users personal style. Its not just K Style with revs

Just do your own thing and develope your own style, if you like rockets then use em, if you want to run around naken to wield 6 mgs then do it.
He's right, Hybrid is the person's personal style.
Its always different from other people. Sometimes it may contain some moves E-style or K-style doesnt have and it can be yours to call (I made one k-style-like move, called ADA attack which means attack defend attack, you slash and defend right after and shoot exactly right after you block, needs a melee that blocks and any weapon, I still trying to figure it out the controls)
if its much different from K or E style.
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