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Old 06-13-2008, 04:55 AM   #14 (permalink)
hemlock1989
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Default Re: Isreal and Palestine

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Originally Posted by Ailysa View Post
Excuse me? Please find some evidence, rather than rumours that sprung from your peers' mouths, please. I remember that the actual figures were that the Palestinian rockets fired into Israel were MORE than 100:1 or 1000:1, with Israel being the 1. Is is only the Israeli rockets that you hear about. That is the point.

And does the fact that Israeli missiles are more advances than the Palestinian rockets? Of course not. The intent is. The Palestinian rockets are being fired with the intent to kill civillians. Israeli rockets are fired with the intent to attack terrorists.

And I'm sure you didn't hear that the hezbollah militants had a base with weapons right next to a school, in order to disguise themselves or use the schoolchildren in the adjoining block as protection from being shot at.

I can tell you right now that I did not use wikipedia for any information, but from what I know actually happened.

Despite the empires which reigned Israel at those times, there were Jews always present in the country - even after the Babylonian exile and similiar events; heck, they were in the country before any of the world religions were founded.

I wouldn't exactly say they were a minority. Yes, there were others living aswell at the time, but if the Jews had always been living in the country, I'm not sure that the newcomers would dominate in numbers over the Israelities. Then again, the empires' armies was far larger than the Jews who fought back (and surprisingly won on many occasions).

Unfortunately, I do not know enough about the Muslim's protecting the Jews to make an opinion - only the briefs. But the "Jews basically kicked out the Muslims/Arabs? No. The land was split between the Arabs and Jews, with the Muslims actually having a more favourable portion the land. Despite the agreement of the countries of the world, all 6 Arab countries attacked to take all of the land. The Jews fought back and pushed the Arabs back out of Israel's borders. It was a dire mistake for all 6 Arab countries. They should not have tried to defy the veto.

Your last sentance is completely false. Yes, the Jews wanted the land of Israel when it was split between them and the Arabs, as their land was seperated from the holy city of Jerusalem. And the temple too was in Arab hands. But after the Arabs attacked and the Jews pushed them out, they do not want any more land. Why should they wish for more land? Israel is the Jewish state and they do not want any more but the land that was promised to them. The statement that Jews want more land since then and all powerful countries support them is false and are spread as myths/rumours against Israel. And the reason that America is in Arab countries such as Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan has nothing to do with Israel, atlhough my own thoughts about them being there for the oil and because of 911 / 'defence' against future attacks may be true and untrue in many respects.
LOL once again read my first post second of all your rambling more favorable portion? Not and the United States does not have their army in Iran so I have no idea what you are trying to bring up?

It was clearly brought up that Iraq was invaded over a story of fake weapons from falsified intelligence who honestly cares about invading those countries that may eventually lead to draft etc just leave it before it hurts what is important our economy.

Like I said suppose some people are oppressed after a large war
and your country is divided around half and you are forced to relocated most people wouldn't take that lightly.

As far as ratio it's like someone throwing a bunch of pebbles at someone then someone launches a boulder your numbers are nowhere near right. As far as them properly locating the people who are actually firing those rockets they take tanks in and clearly do much more damage to civilians than most of those inaccurate rockets can do.

Before world war 2 the Jewish population was a minority and saying they did not want the rest of the land please it was their version of United States manifest destiny. It is practically the same way that the United States mistreated the natives except different in its own ways.

That conflict is fu.cking stupid and wont be politically resolved any time soon as far as that being an out of control conflict the amount of fighting their is so limited hell in some areas in the United States you get just as many deaths from random gun violence.
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